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Pronouns from third-parties

Hergie Bacyadan a boxer who competes in women's boxing is mostly referred to using feminine pronouns. However a single article from One Sports claims that Bacyadan prefers to use he/him but all of the direct quotes comes from their girlfriend. Even more progressive outlet Rappler would use she/her.

I have not found any sources that would indicate the subject prefers he/him. So I hope deferring from using he/him and going by she/her would be compliant to MOS:GENDERID.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 16:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Such issue would be resolved. See talk page of subject. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 17:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What about minor children in a court dispute?

Father says "he", mother says "she" referring to biologically male child born in 2012, and subject of contentious pending court case. Do we go with the current legal designation, or mother's allegation of the child's preference, or ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Modern Law (talk • contribs) 15:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this child notable, or this hypothetical? I would imagine any such instance would need to be viewed on a case-by-case basis. If one or both parents are notable, then we can probably avoid using gendered terms to describe the child or explain that the child's gender is currently the subject of dispute. It is inappropriate for us to be discussing the genital configuration of a pre-teenager so "biologically male" is irrelevant here — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 08:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion appears to relate to Jeff Younger–Anne Georgulas custody battle. I see no reason to attempt to judge a sensitive situation without context, and the above notification looks a bit like asking the other parent. (no pun intended) –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 15:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Context: reliable sources report that the child in question is transgender and requests female name/pronouns/presentation. The application of this guideline in this case seems straightforward. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 17:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]