Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Visa policy of the Marshall Islands

Closure rationale

And the rationale is? This similar AfD clearly demonstrates a consensus against such visa policy articles based upon what Wikipedia is Not. Out of the !keeps, two invoke the WP:OTHERSTUFF argument and the other is a general claim of notability. Did the closing admin close the AfD based on the number of !keep arguments versus !delete or based on the rationale and consensus? Basket of Puppies 19:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Did you notice the difference between what you tried to cite as precident and this AFD? That AFD was for visa requirements for a certain group of nationals, something that is problematic to source, and many of the !votes there made no sense. (And some of the votes that did make sense were tied to the article's containing false information.) This AFD was about the visa policy of a sovereign nation, an entirely different topic. Even if stare decisis was governing on Wikipedia, the topics are so different trying to connect them is not a logical proposition. The consensus here was clearly that visa policies of sovereign nations are notable, which the Palestinian article you reference fails on both counts, not being about an actual visa policy, and not being a sovereign nation. Courcelles 19:48, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Why create this zombie AfD?

The "similar AfD" is on a disputed territory which is the focus of intense partisan conflict - perhaps not the best place to set precedents to be enforced across all other countries. And the consensus there was far from overwhelming (including some delete !votes based on the contents of that article). And it was AfD'd for being "unsourced and possible hoax" - surely not a problem that applies to all the other visa pages. And, personally, I think deletions should be considered on their own merits; to overturn one set of !votes because you preferred the result from a previous set of !votes on a different article would be contempt for consensus.

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Visa_requirements_for_Palestinian_citizens is WP:OTHERSTUFF and was nominated for AfD for reasons unrelated to this article. This here was an AfD for Visa policy of the Marshall Islands. If you don't like how the consensus went on this one, I can only offer sympathies. You prodded it without actually reading it; that failed. Then you took a few seconds to hit the AfD button; that failed. Then you said you were going to arrange a centralised deletion of many such articles; I haven't heard about that recently. A fourth attempt may be inappropriate. bobrayner (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I suggest you place additional comments on the DRV, link above. Basket of Puppies 20:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)