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The following discussion took place on the project page and has been moved to talk on 18 February 2013 to maintain AfD talk on main space.

Consensus for proposal

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As far as I and everyone else to vote 'keep' is concerned, the article is fine as it stands. Some of the controversial material has been removed these past two days. Even so, there needs to be consensus and I can see that there are problems with the word "persecution" as no source groups every listing and categorises them as such. I see from the page history that on the day the page was created in January 2008 by a user now banned for editing without being logged in that several article names were tried. To all those who voted 'delete', how would you feel about this page moving to Attacks on minorities in Kosovo 1998-present? Comments please. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 18:27, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't coatrack this discussion as it deals with the AfD. That being said, your suggestion is again WP:NOTNEWS. (Btw don't expect that to be used to reintroduce various opinions as "new ones" to circumvent the relisting of the AfD) Ridiculous lists of incidents that mostly have no suspects and no motives are neither academic material nor can be grouped together under any kind of premise. There can be no such article simply becase various Serb editors over the years added all kinds of criminal activities that involved Serbs. To me, per the policies your suggestion sounds just as irrational as a suggestion for writing an article about List of X crimes that happened in Y in Z period--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:37, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I asked for eveybody's opinion amongst those to favour deletion, not just yours. I accept that you don't agree to the proposal so let that be an end to it. There are more editors than you to favour deletion and I would like all of them to have their say. I will remind you that you do not own this project page are not here to give other editors orders on how they steer the article. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 18:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Phil Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Concluded as rejection. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 05:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody seems to have followed up on the suggestion from the discussion to change the scope, so I went and canvassed the 'keep' !voters. Obviously others are also invited, but I figured they might not be as interested; if anyone disagrees, I'll complete the rounds. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have access to some pretty good sources on human rights issues in Kosovo, but I suspect that any attempt to build an article with that title would be fraught with reverts, and likely to duplicate issues that we already cover in other articles. Oh well - good luck! bobrayner (talk) 22:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]