Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/List of programs broadcast by Radio Philippines Network

Voting twice?

<Moved from project page. — Satori Son>

As nominator, your support for deletion is implicit - this is voting twice Vegetationlife (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect, a nominator can explicitly vote under the nomination. "Nominations imply a recommendation to delete the article unless the nominator specifically says otherwise....some nominators explicitly indicate their recommendation" If solid policy based argument discussions were being presented, you cannot assume that I would not have supported a vote of keep, or withdraw.--Hu12 (talk) 19:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Cool! You went to all the trouble of finding that policy for me! You didn't bother here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Comics_Bulletin&oldid=187062360 Vegetationlife (talk) 20:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey can I "vote" twice too? --Howard the Duck 03:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely..--Hu12 (talk) 15:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Eh... don't be biased and AFD other articles as well? --Howard the Duck 16:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Guys, please, this back-and-forth is not helpful to the debate. I know sometimes it is very difficult to not take these things personally, but I implore everyone to please relax. Cheers. — Satori Son 16:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, pretty please? — Satori Son 16:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Raw count analysis

• Keep

1. Danngarcia
2. Howard the Duck
3. Jojit

• Delete

1. Srpnor
2. Satori Son
3. Hu12

• Non-participatory

1. Vegetationlife - comment
2. David Eppstein - categorize
3. User:SineBot - Signing comment
4. Starczamora - comment

Rough consensus rationale

none

Delete arguments

• per nom
  • rationale Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, Wikipedia articles are not Directories, directory entries or a electronic program guide
• per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY and WP:LISTS#Purpose of lists. Long lists of unreferenced redlinks are unhelpful to our readers
  • rationale policy based
• Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, Wikipedia articles are not Directories, directory entries or a electronic program guide
  • rationale Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, Wikipedia articles are not Directories, directory entries or a electronic program guide

Keep arguments

• If you will delete this page, maybe you should also delete the list of programs for NBC, ABC and CBS and other major television networks.
  • rationale Wikipedia talk:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions Wikipedia:ALLORNOTHING#All_or_nothing
• This is a standard "List of programs broadcast by Foo"
  • rationale fails Wikipedia:Lists#Purpose_of_lists
• For the same reasons I gave in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programs broadcast by National Broadcasting Network. .... "If we have list of programs broadcast by The WB then why not have a list of programs by NBN? Keep it if we have to keep other non-US/UK/Aus/CA/NZ lists"
  • rationale Wikipedia talk:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions Wikipedia:ALLORNOTHING#All_or_nothing

Summary

The keep arguments were lacked solidly in policy and precedent. Ergo: the closing rational is flawed,

“ The result was keep, nothing really that stands out here which would warrants an article deletion such as WP:V or WP:OR issues. The WP:NOT#DIR criteria can be debated for years without results and it can be subjected to various interpretations, so the result has been defaulted to keep. ”

WP:V or WP:OR played no role in this discussion. Applicable "policy" (WP:NOT#DIR } states Directories, directory entries, electronic program guide ...and use explicity as an example "a radio station...". This should have been relisted.--Hu12 (talk) 03:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:DRV

Hey, if you still insist, you can bring this to WP:DRV. --Howard the Duck 10:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)