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Please disregard this nomination. Viriditas is a disruptive wikipedian and is merely engaging in aggravated harrassment towards me by going around Wikipedia using my username, searching out articles that I have written or added to, and nominating them for deletion, just for spite, in some sort of major edit war. He has disrupted the entire Hippie article for over a year by engaging in edit wars with at least a dozen people, basically commandeered the article so nobody else can edit it, and I have made mention of this fact is several talk pages. His answer to this is to search out my writings to have them deleted. In my opinion, Viriditas is a disruptive editor and needs to have his use of Wikipedia curtailed. What he is doing now is an act of Wiki-terrorism.Morgan Wright (talk) 05:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also would like to state my belief that Viriditas and Veritas are two accounts being used by the same person. I got an email from Viriditas that the Concert 10 article was in question, and that he was nominating it for deletion. This is an extremely obscure article that is almost never visited. Then when I see the nomination for deletion, it was by Veritas. Many times I have seen these two accounts being used in tandem, and much too often for it to be a coincidence. It is clear that these are two sock puppets of the same person, who has not even given his real name. I would like the powers that be, to investigate these two accounts to make sure they are not sock puppets of the same disruptive individual.Morgan Wright (talk) 05:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could we see some evidence please besides your personal beliefs? A very quick look at the Veritas account shows that it's a long-term Wikipedian who changed his name in 2006. It's best not to make silly accusations without actually doing the research first. —Viriditas | Talk 05:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
HA! You can refer to me as "he" instead of "it." --Veritas (talk) 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. :) The sad thing is, Morgan will never change his mind. Even if you show him the logs in question (which anyone can access) he will insist that we are the same user. —Viriditas | Talk 05:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The comment to my talk page by Viriditas regarding the Concert 10 article popped up after an edit war on the Hippie article. He said he was going to nominate the Concert 10 article for deletion. That article was written long ago and it's extremely obscure. A few minutes later, Veritas nominates it for deletion. The chances that Viriditas and Veritas would both stumble upon such an obscure and old article within minutes of each other is 1 in a billion. It is clear they are the same person, and I request a sock check, whatever that is. I doubt you can catch it though, in today's world of wifi and dozens of servers available by proxy so you can't check IP addresses, I wonder how you would do it. But I'd still say Veritas and Viriditas can easily be proven to be the same person....somehow. The history of somany people trying to edit the Hippie article, and how their efforts were always blocked by the duo of Veritas and Viriditas, clearly showed there was an unholy connection between the two. Morgan Wright (talk) 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Um no, it's called looking at your contrib history. That's how I found the article, at least. I tend to do that with newbie editors when I suspect that an editor may be unsure of policies and is thus making bad edits to other articles. Generally, this is done so that one might take an issue to a talk page so it can be discussed before you make further edits. Please note that you do not WP:OWN this article. --Veritas (talk) 05:45, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Nonsense. You do this to all newbie editors? And this is your only explanation for how you stumbled upon the same obscure article that Viriditas was attacking? I'm not a newbie editor, I've been editing Wikipedia for many years. You are clearly Viriditas. Don't even bother trying to deny it anymore. How did you and Viriditas know to come to this page?
This is reprehensible. The basic Wikipedian rule of editing by concensus on articles doesn't work when one person makes up 2 or more sock puppets to railroad an article. The hippie article is horrible, as a result. I wonder how many other articles this person has railroaded.Morgan Wright (talk) 05:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. No, it's called doing research. Please visit the Music Division at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts at 40 Lincoln Center Plaza and make an appointment to access their "Concert Ten (festival)" folder. It contains the sources you will need to justify using this article. I am not, however, convinced that these sources will allow the article to meet the notability requirement, but I suggest you try. —Viriditas | Talk 05:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm using this to invoke WP:FUCK. I have other things on wiki to do and still say this topic isn't notable per applicable notability guidelines. Morgan would be better off spending his time doing research than making accusations. --Veritas (talk) 06:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Unbelievable. Totally and utterly unbelievable. Morgan Wright (talk) 06:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Why is asking you to do the required research "totally and utterly unbelievable"? There are still no available references that meet Wikipedia sourcing guidelines. You need to go to the NYPL and find them. I really do not want to see another message from you on this topic until you have those sources in your possession. —Viriditas | Talk 06:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Can't this discussion of sockpuppetis, trolling or whatever it is really be moved somewhere else? This is for deciding the fate of this article, not for proving or disproving Viriditas's or Veritas's sockpuppetism or lack thereof.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Quadraxis (talk • contribs)
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