Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leon Miguel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The deletion nomination has been countered with the provision of reliable Philippine news media sources that participants herein generally agree as providing significant coverage about the subject. As such, the subject just meets the threshold of WP:BASIC, although not by a significant margin. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:12, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Leon Miguel

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A very long article that is essentially about a little known actor. There has been no significant coverage of this actor, in some of the refs he isn't even mentioned, in the others he is only given the briefest of mentions. Rotten regard 21:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

   - This article is currently being improved both for format and content in accordance with Wiki Guidelines. - Cmerioles
   - The references have been updated to address the comment of Rotten  Cmerioles (talk) 22:41, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

• Weak Keep, subject has received significant coverage in at least two non-primary or secondary reliable sources, Philippine Daily Inquirer, and Manila Bulletin, therefore it can be argued that the subject meets WP:GNG. At the same time, I can see how it can be argued that the subject doesn't meet any of the criteria of WP:NACTOR; however that is moot if the subject meets WP:GNG. Therefore, although I would prefer there being more reliable sources of the subject, as passing mention of the subject (which occurs a lot in connection to a movie the subject was in, Graceland) does not count towards notability, I support deletion at this time. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

KEEP - The sources of the articles for the said subject are two of the largest newspapers in the Philippines: Philippine Daily Inquirer, with 48.25% or 866,000 readers and Manila Bulletin at 34.6% or 621,000 readers. See http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/148811/philippine-daily-inquirer-widens-lead-in-readership In contrast, Chicago Tribune, for example, has only 448,930 daily readership (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tribune) and one of the largest global newspaper, The New York Times, has 1,865,315 daily readers (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times)

The articles mentioned are as follows: Cmerioles

  1. Kidnapper Invited to NY Film Festival 
  2. International Film Fest Veteran Is Proudly from Masbate 

• The nominated article (with lower-case "m") is currently a malformed redirect to Leon Miguel. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:00, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
  • I just put the AfD tag on the target article, which seems identical, and removed it from the redirect. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• Note to administrator - The AfD tag was originally placed on a malformed redirect, instead of on the real article. The tag was placed on the real article November 5 4:36 UTC, so do not close the discussion until 7 days after that date. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Keep - This is a factual article about an Indie actor, which by definition, "little known". He has made lots of contribution to the Indie industry since 1996 (check his Filmography). Now he's making rounds in major international film festivals to premiere his latest's starring role: Mang Abe's Ube <. Last year, he toured all major international premieres and won awards from his movie, Graceland. Cmerioles (talk) 22:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Pending judgment, but on the first look, those "FB" (Facebook?), Youtube and Kickstarter, Wikipedia articles(!) and IMDB references don't count. Therefore we're stuck with the Inquirer and Rappler references are solely (or majority) about this guy. –HTD 13:12, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep. As the three WP:RS are in-depth. The rest of the article that are cited from crap such as IMDB, Kickstarter, Youtube and Facebook has to be removed, though. –HTD 02:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Move to CLOSE this discussion and vote to KEEP the article

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rcsprinter₁₂₃ (babble) @ 15:18, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

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