Wikipedia:Wikifun/Round 12/Answers/Question 15

Well, I think the bottom picture is Côte d'Ivoire. 2nd pic - Some Roman / Byantzine? Ghelae 12:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right about the bottom picture. -- Ravn 16:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So the 2nd pic isn't a Roman or a Byantzine? Is is a medieval European, or perhaps renaissence then? 17:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Ghelae, I will only further comment on actual guesses. This is not about getting the information from me. -- Ravn 17:54, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find that one of the most useful side effects of Wikifun is to realize how badly information is linked in Wikipedia, especially in what concerns categories... e.g. none of the present photographs are found when going through categories "Cote d'ivoire", "history of...", "presidents of....", "heads of state of...", "people of ...", "... politicians", "... writers", "...musicians", etc... (I admit I didn't check the ...sportsmen, as the photos don't suggest that category... ;-) — MFH:Talk 20:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe one could make a game of it. N players get a random page displayed. All players have to propose new categories for this page independently (from the set of existing categories). Whenever 2<n<=N players propose a same category, these players get a point and the category is added to the page.

In order to categorize a lot of pages, that would need to be some online (non-wiki) game though. Well.. I would play it. ;) -- Ravn 09:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

great idea! (Well, in some sense, the whole of Wikipedia is a game of similar nature...!)

But why "non-wiki" ? There could be a page dedicated to this game, and for each suggestion, one adds a line of the form " (link to page) : (link to category) : (signature) ", which could easily be parsed by a bot or by a "special: page" script. — MFH:Talk 13:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From the hint, I am assuming this the name of a person. I think the middle one might be Napoleon, but I could be wrong. But I will guess James Francis Ivory, based on the last one being Cote d'Ivoire. If so, presumably the first one is a James and the second is a Francis? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is not correct, sorry. -- Ravn 12:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Raul?[edit]

The first one looks like Raul =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. That looks like him. But it's not. -- Ravn 14:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

James Francis Ivory[edit]

Since I dont agree with Nichalp (Raul does not wear glasses), I make another proposition:

The answer is James Francis Ivory, everybody recognizes James on the first, and Francis on the second picture, and the Ivory coast on the last one. — MFH:Talk 16:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, sorry. This is neither Raul nor James, and the Ivory coast does not like to be called that way either. -- Ravn 16:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't know you were so "politically correct" (and even if the Ivory coast does not like to be called like that, it is the Ivory coast, as well as it is the Elfenbeinküste); on the other hand there is no guy named "Côte d'Ivoire"...— MFH:Talk 13:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: didn't notice J.F.I. has already been proposed...— MFH:Talk 13:15, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly don't mind if you call it Elfenbeinküste if it helps you in this puzzle. -- Ravn 13:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that this won't help me. And to add again material to my candidature for the Kellogg's box (until there is a specific page for that), please note that I was absolutely sure that the hint referred to James Donald Griffin (since photos are those of James Earl Carter, Donald Duck and of a Griffin, but now I found another possibility, much less "correct" but somehow more probable... — MFH:Talk 16:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch! - Now I am really sorry (and a bit amused of just how ambiguous things can be). I absolutely didn't think of this possibility. With the hint, I was not referring to Mr. Griffin indeed. You are right, I made a mistake with the additional hint in terms of correctness. I should better remove it. -- Ravn 17:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be so negative! (citation from Eliza) -- I said this just to get the box of Kellogg's! Your hint was still a hint (even if not very helpful once the basic principle is understood...) Now I don't dare to tell you what other (much farther!) Odysees your questions already caused! — MFH:Talk 18:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tell me more about your Odysees. -- Eliza 18:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:) (You could have left "problems"...) — MFH:Talk

I was tempted to stick with "farther". ;) -- Ravn 09:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The hint may not be bad, but it does not fit into the rule to generate the other pictures. That's why I preferred to remove it. -- Ravn 18:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh gosh - Jimmy Carter and the flag of Wales were give-aways for me, but I had to check the Donald (Duck)... -- ALoan (Talk) 18:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you mean, Donal'Duck ? well, it's not "mandatory", you can leave it out and yet see the full answer... anyway, apart from Linus, I think the remaining questions are on their very beginning... — MFH:Talk 19:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been on an odyssey or two as well. Mostly I've tried searching through late 18th/early 19th century British military figures and Romantic poets trying to find the second picture. I'm sure I've seen it somewhere before - it's on the tip of my brain but I can't quite place it. I have no clue at all about the top one.

I have a theory that the answer is a person whose surname is given by the second and third pictures and is something-cote. This theory hasn't got me anywhere yet though. --Spondoolicks 11:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For the surname Cote, there is David Cote, Alain Cote, Patrick Cote, and a lot of people with the surname Cotes, as well as a village called Cotes. The other clues will tell which one (if one) it is. Just thought I'd put it down here for now until better clues come up. - Ghelae^talk_contribs 19:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but it could be -cote - Heathcote, for example. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear questionsetter, could you please be bold and add the middle image to Wikipedia:List of images/Art and/or Category:Paintings etc.? Thanks in advance! — MFH:Talk 23:29, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is very well-categorized in the Wikimedia Commons. HTH, Ravn 09:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so I found the image. It's Eugène de Beauharnais. Maybe that will help somebody else figure this out; it gave me some ideas about what the answer might be but they have not panned out. Zoicon5 23:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've got a hunch that it might be Simone de Beauvoir, from (somebody), Eugène de Beauharnais, and Côte d'Ivoire, with the first guy being called some permutation of Simon, but if so I can't seem to find him. —Zero Gravitas 02:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is correct. Congratulations to you.. I will give you the full points, as the first image has disappeared again. I did not know that pictures on the Wikipedia are so short-lived.. I will try to check later if the pictures for the last puzzle are there at least. -- Ravn 08:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well done. I thought the second image looked vaguely Napoleonic... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. I guess I hadn't seen it before then. I was looking in the right period though.

Well done to Zero Gravitas. --Spondoolicks 10:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]