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Gia Long [edit]

Passed --Eurocopter (talk) 16:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Founder of the Nguyen Dynasty. Reigned 1802-1820 and came to power after 25 years of civil war. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have just written some stub articles about Gia Long wives (sorry, I can't found any English source).--Amore Mio (talk) 23:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There are still too many sentences that start with "this" and too much use of passive voice, but I think it's close enough now. Cla68 (talk) 07:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC) Comment. OK, it's closer, but I still need to go through it and look it line-by-line when I have an uninterrupted hour or so of free time, hopefully within the next couple of days. Cla68 (talk) 07:52, 13 March 2009 (UTC) Oppose per A4. Sorry, but the article's text needs a lot of help with grammar, sentence structure, and word flow. I helped with the first section, but the entire article needs more attention. I would suggest asking someone else who is somewhat, at least, familiar with the subject to help with an extensive copyedit. If the nomination is still open you can note completion of the copyedit here. Otherwise, you can renominate the article. Cla68 (talk) 06:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC) Comment:[reply]
I've justed pasted in the copyedit. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's better, but there are still some huge paragraphs in several of the sections. Cla68 (talk) 02:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done that, YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 06:34, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, the MinhMang image is ok now, but the other two still need more explanation on their pages about where they're from. Cla68 (talk) 02:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The text appears to need an extensive copyedit, but I'm going to look at it harder to make sure over the next day or so.
  • (Will add more comments later). Cla68 (talk) 06:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:
  • File:GiaLong.jpg is a derivative work of this image. This portrait of Gia Long was painted by an unnamed French painter in about 1790s and was published in Republic of Vietnam historical textbook before 1970 and some historical books before 1950.
  • File:Quangtrung.gif was a derivate work of 200 Republic of Vietnam dong bills which first printed in 1966. Moreover, Republic Socialist of Vietnam doesn't recognize Republic of Vietnam's publications as they say "they were propaganda of older regime, and against the current communist regime".
  • I have no further information of these images but they have been used in Vietnam for a long time as PD work. --Amore Mio (talk) 10:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Teh Minh Mang picture is from an 1830 book, so PD. copyedit in progress. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 08:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
See this one and this one.--Amore Mio (talk) 12:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Used one of the 1780s pics of Gia Long. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 06:34, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. A lot of sections seem very skimpy on internal links. Per WP:BTW, those should be added. For example, a very long section "Consolidation of southern Vietnam" has only about 5, this is rather inadequate. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:19, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some, but as there are very little proper nouns, there is not much to do. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is. Examples: Catholic, French government, China, feudal warfare, Saigon, Confucian orthodoxy, Huế, fortresses and a palace (should be linked to specific buildings), missionaries, Indochina, Siamese, Cambodia and vassal state - and that's just in the lead. I expect that the main is hiding an even more impressive list of terms that need to be ilinked. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Did some more, YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 00:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Comprehensive and well-referenced, although I would recommend integrating the See Also section; I believe several of those are mentioned in the article. – Joe N 17:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Removed them as all being redudnat. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 00:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - article checked by Cla and Joe and the references look alright. My only thought is to sdd locations and OCLC's to the bibliography. Cheers, —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 19:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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