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County Road 492 (Marquette County, Michigan)[edit]

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County Road 492 (Marquette County, Michigan) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) review

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
Nominator's comments: Site of the first highway centerline in the US, I present to you CR 492. (Scott5114 was there this past summer, btw.) Anyway, I know there aren't photos of the roadway, but that's also being rectified as soon as possible.
Nominated by: Imzadi 1979  21:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First comment occurred: 21:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Review by TCN7JM[edit]

Review by TCN7JM

It's nice to see a CR at ACR. I'll go ahead and take a look later on. TCN7JM 21:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Only one comment here: I've never heard of a terminus being on another highway. Maybe use a different preposition?

More to come, though I must ask if it is at all possible for a map to be made. No GIS data for county roads? TCN7JM 21:41, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Route description
  • Isn't "residential neighborhoods" redundant?
  • I would propose just linking "tuberculosis". Not sure the "tuberculosis sanitarium" redlink is going to turn blue anytime soon.
  • In the very next sentence, you use "before" as a preposition twice and it doesn't read very well.
  • Why have you linked CR 550, but not CR 500?
History
  • I'm a bit confused. You say in the RD that drivers at the US 41/M-28 intersection have to the Michigan-left-esque thing, but in the History, you say that they no longer have to. Could you please explain?

That's all I have to say. TCN7JM 18:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, copyedits applied. CR 550 has an article started in a sandbox because it's one of the last primary CRs in the county I plan to give an article. As for the history, I applied a copy edit to clarify that there is a new option to connect the two segments of CR 492. Thanks for the review, and let me know if further tweaks are needed. Imzadi 1979  01:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Concerning the last one, you now have a sentence that switches from past tense to present tense: "After the project was completed, motorists have a second option..." TCN7JM 01:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okey dokes, you've fixed that sentence. I support. TCN7JM 01:24, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image review by SounderBruce[edit]

Without a map or some modern pictures of the highway, I'm not sure if I can approve the article. SounderBruce 21:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed --Rschen7754 23:44, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A map should be made, even if it's just using the KML. --Rschen7754 01:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Map added. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 08:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Dough4872[edit]

Review by Dough4872

Comments:

  1. "Several historic sites line the roadway as it runs south and parallel to the main highway, U.S. Highway 41 (US 41) through the Marquette Iron Range in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.", perhaps also mention M-28 here.
  2. "The highway was later a part of M-28 before being transferred back to county control.", wasn't US 41 also signed along this road?
  3. In the first paragraph of the route description, you overuse "Maas Street". Can you try to cut down on the use?
  4. "M-35 approaches the county road from the north before yielding to the country road.", what is this supposed to mean?
  5. "Traffic crossing between the two sides have to use the main highway through median turn arounds in a maneuver similar to a Michigan left.", how is this maneuver different from a Michigan left.
  6. I would remove the redlink to CR 550 since CRs are generally not notable enough for articles.
  7. When was the Trunk Line 15 designation first assigned?
  8. " The western end of CR 492 was moved by 2001. Before this realignment, CR 492 followed Brookton Road, parallel to US 41/M-28 before turning to the previous terminus just west of the border between Marquette Township and the City of Marquette." isn't this supposed to be the eastern end? Dough4872 00:14, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Replies:

  1. Added
  2. No, actually, it wasn't, despite what certain historical markers and news articles that parrot them say. M-15 was routed along the Marquette–Negaunee Road, but when M-15 was redesignated US 41, the latter number was run concurrently with M-35 from downtown Negaunee out into Negaunee Township and then along a county road previously not a state highway into Marquette. M-28 was extended eastward from its terminus in Covington along US 41, but used the former route of M-15 between the two cities before rejoining US 41 in Marquette. So yes, the maps I have prove the historical marker at Dead Man's Curve wrong: CR 492 was never part of US 41.
  3. I don't think four mentions in one paragraph of that size is "overuse", and in any case, the first two usages can't really be separated out.
  4. Traffic along CR 492 has the right of way, and cars on M-35 have to stop before turning onto the concurrency.
  5. The median crossings are connected differently, and the turnaround in US 41/M-28 that northbound traffic along CR 492 would have to use is quite a bit farther away and downhill from the main crossing.
  6. Actually, I have plans to write a CR 550 article based on the news coverage from when MDOT was paying remove several series of curves. Dominic Jacobetti died in office before the state completed the last section of the overall project, but he had previously attempted to get MDOT to take jurisdiction of CR 550 as well.
  7. Unknown at this time; I've been unable to pin down when the MSHD switched from internally designating state trunkline highways as "Divisions" and "Branches of Divisions" and applied that "T.L." numbers were redone as the M- numbers.
  8. Good catch. Updating shortly. Imzadi 1979  00:47, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The article looks good now. Dough4872 22:54, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support issues resolved. --Rschen7754 19:50, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck by TCN7JM[edit]

Spotcheck by TCN7JM

I am beginning a spotcheck immediately. The source numbers are as of this revision. I am reviewing the following sources:

  • Source 7:  Great
  • Source 13:  Awesome
  • Source 18:  Superb
  • Source 23:  Fabulous
  • Source 24:  Cool
  • Source 25:  Nice

This will be done within the next couple of hours. TCN7JM 03:32, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm out of adjectives, so, uh...Support. TCN7JM 04:07, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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