Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Dreamafter

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User:Dreamafter[edit]

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Dreamafter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

CD-MD (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line}§ 04:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Rolling around MilHist coordinator elections, and Dreamafter decides to run. A little while later, User:CD-MD is created, and Dreamafter makes his first RANDOM welcome to him. (He welcomed 13 users since October, but they all had edit affiliations with him before the welcome.) CD-MD makes a total of 3 edits in his WikiLife, and they are placed below.

Edit #1:After Dreamafter happens to Welcome CD, isn't it very convenient that CD places this there- Edit #1

Edit #2:CD signs up at MilHist.

Edit #3:No more exchange is had between them, and CD votes for Dreamafter in the elections. The Vote

This comment is quite odd, wouldn't you say? How would he have found all that out in 9 minutes? (Especially the Heuschrecke 10 comment)

Timeline:

CD-MD is created at 02:56
Dreamafter welcomes CD-MD (02:57)
CD-MD votes in the election (03:04)
CD-MD is never seen or heard from again.

I close my case. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line}§ 04:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Alright, CD-MD is a member of my family, not me though. I didn't ask him to edit that page though, and I just wanted him to feel welcome so I welcomed him. Block the account if you have to, but I am going to assure you that he will be told about this... With a Checkuser, you'd find that it was done here, at my house, but not who did it. Dreamafter (talk) 01:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, you are stating that in the 8 minutes you had in the course of time that you welcomed him, you and he switched on and off the computer at the same time? Also, if you were in the same house, why did he ask you all those questions on your talk page, and you responded to them there? Don't you think you could just talk to him? And even if you didn't talk to him, that seemed awfully fast for him to find out all that information, especially the part about you not talking much. If you ask me, this all seems a little suspicious, and I still think you are the same user, and there is plenty of evidence to back it up. And if your next excuse is that he was on a different computer, that computer should have a SIMILAR IP address, but not the same one. It is the same way in my school. The computers next to each other are 1 or 2 numbers off. I'm sorry, but all the evidence points to that you created this user and used him to vote for you. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line}§ 02:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to remind Redmarkviolinist to assume good faith. Lego K^ontribs T^alkM 21:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About the same IP, in my family we have about 3 computers, but they all edit through the same IP. Schools have different IPs for each computer so if a student goes to an inappropriate website, the school knows which exact computer the student was on. Lego K^ontribs T^alkM 21:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still, all the edits and evidence point to that they are the same user, and Dreamafter was just using it to gain an advantage in the voting. I am sorry about the good faith. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line}§ 02:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions: Confirmed Dreamafter and CD-MD are the only ones on that IP. For disclosure, I was one of hte people that CD-MD voted for in the MILHIST diff. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dreamafter admits above that he and User:CD-MD were in the same house but denies collusion. Assuming good faith, this explanation on this one occasion is within the realms of possibility. I also see that CD-MD has not made any edits since February and this is therefore stale. I have warned Dreamafter about policy on roommates and meatpuppets, and advised him that in any future instances he is unlikely to get a second chance. (Disclosure: User:CD-MD also voted for me in the Milhist diff.)--ROGER DAVIES ^talk 04:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the data was live. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't doubt it for a minute. I was using stale in its sense of "stale news", "yesterday's news", "old hat", "past its sell-by date", "dormant" etc. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 14:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]