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User:CoYep[edit]

Evidence

The following IPs (in chronological order) are almost certainly sockpuppets, most likely of CoYep, though a couple are possibly of some other user involved with the article Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians. A few of the IPs edit the article (Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians) before CoYep does, but note that 5 of them begin with 84.178.2xx.xxx, an IP range that is used by CoYep. See this diff, where he changes a signature by IP address 84.178.252.100 to his own (username) signature. Also, an edit on June 12th (see this diff) by an IP under 84.178.2xx.xx reverting an edit of deeceevoice might also be that of CoYep. The following IPs seem to all be controlled by one user (which seems to be CoYep) through similarity in articles edited (the Egyptian controversy one), similarity in beliefs, editing style, and edit summary style.

  1. Special:Contributions/User:84.178.253.229
    • (33 Edits) Edits begin 04:02 June 26, UTC. Before CoYep edits the article with his username, but note the IP address similarities. All edits are to Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians. Edits are mainly the insertion of pictures of statues of ancient Egyptians throughout the article, and shows familiarity with wikipedia through use of wikimarkup regarding images.
  2. Special:Contributions/User:84.178.238.28
    • (7 Edits) Edits begin 20:53 27 June 2006, UTC, again before CoYep's username edits, but again note the IP address similarities. All edits are to Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians and shows familiarity with Wikipedia through use of {{fact}} tags (first edit is the addition of such a tag).
  3. Special:Contributions/User:207.67.145.230
    • (18:11 Cont. Edits, 7 month-earlier other edits)First edits on 12 May unrelated to both CoYep's edits at the time and Ancient Egypt, so probably then a different person. However, edits made from 02:24 28 June 2006, UTC (before 20:42 28 June when CoYep first makes edits in his user name on the article, specifically the talk page) are all on ancient Egypt, the first edit being the insertion of an image with completely correct wikimarkup. Note that the image is from the same collection as many of the images added by the first IP. Also note that the edits by this IP are directly after those of 84.178.238.28, albeit 4 hours later.
  4. Special:Contributions/User:207.195.240.53
    • (16 Edits - half to other areas)All edits on 30 June, half of which (the later half) are to other areas. However, the first half are all to Egypt and Controversy of race of Ancient Egyptians, the first being a comment about deeceevoice being an afro-nut and a racist (perhaps it is actually Justforasecond's account?). The edits on the controversy article show a familiarity with Wikipedia as the edit summaries use ths shortened "rv" for revert, and the IP talks about removing "original research," an edit summary often used by later IPs, and understands wikimarkup for images as evident by his/her changing of an image size and reinsertion (final edit on controversy article) of a disputed picture of a statue with hazel eyes inserted by the first IP, which I had previously removed.
  5. Special:Contributions/User:71.142.88.197
    • This user has only one edit, but the edit (edit summary: "restored," as frequently used by the other IPs, the immediately previous as well as later ones) is the restoration of the aforementioned image of a statue with hazel eyes. Also note that the edit was on the same day (ETC, slightly different day UTC) as the above IP edits, 2 hours after the above IP stopped editing.
  6. Special:Contributions/User:84.178.238.68
    • (11 Edits) The user's first edit was the removal of a sentence saying prognathism is used by forensic scientists today, something that CoYep has been discussing with me on the talk page (he believes that it is not used). The IP's fourth edit again refers to the removal of "original research," as have other IPs above (and later below), showing familiarity with Wikipedia. The User has also edited Ron Dellums and Egypt (i.e. 2 non-Controversy article edits). The Egypt edit was the reinsertion of an image of a pop-star (disputed by Zerida, of limited relevance), while the Ron Dellums (an article also frequently warred over by DCV and Just) was the reinsertion of info about Dellums's lack of acknowledgement of an imprisoned son, a piece of information particularly warred over by DCV and Justforasecond. Note Jpgordon's edit summary in reverting: "rv anon probably sock." Also note the IP address, again of the type 84.178.2xx.xx.
  7. Special:Contributions/User:130.94.134.166
    • (54 Edits) Most prolific IP. First Edit on July 1 on Coed of the week (a grammar fix), but its second edit is on Talk:Egypt, inserting two images: one of a tomb (never before used and never again used by the IPs) and a second of the same hazel-eyed statue whose utility I was disputing (both under its insertion by earlier IPs and later under the below IPs). The edit also states "You should [k]now" regarding racism in response to a question by DCV about racism (i.e. implying DCV is racist), indicating that the IP is familiar with DCV and Wikipedia (along with the correct usage of wikimarkup for the images). Note also that the comment by this IP (130.94.134.166) was a direct continuation of a discussion with the earlier IP 207.195.240.53's edit, indicating that the two IPs were used by one person. For clarity, I have included the exchange at the end of the evidence section. Of later edits, only 3 are not directly to the controversy page (or its talk). The gist of the user's edits are to reinsert the images (including the hazel-eyed statue) that I removed (some, but not all of the ones inserted by earlier IPs), with edit summaries like "rv vandalized image," "rv original research," and "rv bad faith deletion of relevant ancient egyptian man," all similar to the edit summaries provided by other IPs and indicative of familiarity with wikipedia (note that all edits took place in the space of 24 hours, from early July 1st to early July 2nd).
  8. Special:Contributions/User:84.178.222.241
    • (30 Edits) First edit is on 04:12 2 July 2006 UTC, directly following the last post by the above (130.94.134.166) IP, whose last post was on 04:11 2 July 2006 UTC, very strong evidence of the two IPs being shared by one person. Also note the IP address beginning with 84.178.2xx.xxx, the same beginning of the known CoYep account and similar to 5 other IPs with the same first 6 numbers. Note that the IP's edits were all to the controversy article (1 to talk page) and were of the same type as the other edits - mainly reinsertion of the images (other edits are anti-afrocentric like other IPs as well, but less strong evidence). IP shows familiarity with policy through his/her mastery of images, and also edit summaries (similar to the other IPs) like these: "rv vandalism, POV blanking, original research, completed quotes."
  9. Special:Contributions/User:84.178.238.162
    • (11 Edits) All edits to controvery article (2 to talk), and first edit (20:08 2 July 2006, UTC) is 12 minutes after last edit of above IP (19:56 2 July 2006, UTC), relatively strong (not as strong as 1 min. difference) evidence that it's controlled by the same person. Again, note the IP, begininning with 84.178.2xx.xxx like the above IP, one known CoYep IP, and earlier IPs with similar edits. The IP's edits are also continued by those of CoYep, albeit about 50 minutes later. Note that while the IP never reinserted an image as the others did, it had the same viewpoint (against the afrocentric position) as the others and, more importantly, CoYep seems to indirectly acknowledge that the edits were his. This indirect acknowledgement can be seen for CoYep's argument for the removal of the craniofacial anthropometry section from the article (as the anonymous IP did) due to its "outdatedness" (the same reason given by the IP). He seems to indirectly claim the IP is his as he directly answers my comments regarding why I reinserted a couple of items deleted by the IP, which I had assumed were CoYep's under an IP of his. I noted the edits as CoYep's and addressed them as such, and CoYep responded as though they were his, without any denial, albeit without an affirmation as well.
  10. Special:Contributions/User:207.195.243.51
    • (11 Edits) All to Controversy or talk page. Edits are mainly the reinsertion of the hazel-eyed statue image and adding information against the afrocentric position. Shows familiarity with wikipedia through the flawless use of wikimarkup for the image, his first edit (admittedly which could have been simply copy and pasted). Also shows familiarity with wikipedia and the debate through his edit summaries, such as the following: (first regarding my removal of hazel-eyed statue) "rv. what discussion? you've been furiously and obsessively trying to censor images that dismantle afrocentric fanatasies, but it just won't fly," "rv vandalism of image," "rv vandalism of text."

Note that my points regarding the beliefs of the IP are not a condemnation or a reason to bring up this case. I'm simply pointing out similarities in beliefs as evidence toward an IP being a sockpuppet.

The illegitimate use of the accounts is to break 3RR without negative repercussions (his user name never gets tagged, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:130.94.134.166 reported by User:Yom (result: blocked 8 hours)) and to attack others without repercussions (see this diff against me and this diff against deeceevoice).

Special:Contributions/207.67.145.170 and Special:Contributions/207.195.240.240 seem to be puppets based on their contributions (i.e. insertion of some of the same images, also see that some of the above IPs have had the 207.xxx beginning) on Talk:Egypt as well, but I couldn't necessarily say they're of CoYep.

ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 00:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Exchange between deeceevoice and IPs:

Egyptian tomb
Old Kingdom Egyptian man with hazel eyes
Many indigenous Egyptians do not consider themselves Arab, either. The government is heavily Arab, as are the major cities. But once you get out of the major cities, the complexion -- literally -- of the country changes drastically. I direct you to an exchange on my talk page with an Egyptian[1] which addresses the issue of Arab versus African and the afrophobia of the Arab regime that has infected Egyptian culture. deeceevoice 14:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is a very racist thing to say, and bespeaks of a tremendous amount of ignorance. Wikipedia doesn't allow racism in any form. The user asked for Egyptians' opinions not afro-nutty gobbledygook. Stop embarassing yourself (unsigned post) [post by IP 207.195.240.53]
I think you need to look up the word "racism." :p deeceevoice 06:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You should now. [post by IP 130.94.134.166]






Comments

This is pure fishing expedition and would be an abuse of checkuser. It is extremely unlikely that CoYep has access to that many domains. You have not proven there would be a 3RR violation even if he were ALL of these IPs. By wiki policies, it is inappropriate to ask for the IP behind a username unless there is a very obvious case of persistent vandalism, ballot box stuffing going on. Unless all of these are CoYep and unless Yom presents a real case that the anonymous editing is harming the page via dispute resolution (RfC, RfAr, etc), I request CoYep's IP(s) be kept secret. Registered editors have the right to IP privacy. As for Deeceevoice's comment about Arab's "infecting" Egyptian culture, it is racist and I hope no one would stand for it. Reminds me of "ethnic cleansing" and 3rd Reich rhetoric. Justforasecond 01:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say that he used the IPs to get around a 3RR, but certainly at least one of the IPs went over 3RR, but if that IP was him, then it means that CoYep broke 3RR without consequences, which an IP would allow him to do. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 04:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

This is merely an attempt of User:Yom (who teamed up with User:Deeceevoice [2]), to eleminate and silence editors opposing afrocentric bias and POV edit wars.

Please see my edit [3] which prompted his accusation [4]).

Nevertheless, I wholeheartedly support his check-User request. I never violated the 3rr rule, never engaged in vandalism, POV edits or excessive edit wars - I have nothing to hide.

Please see also the discussion at Talk:Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians, (especially the section "Hazel eyes", and "My edits" and "Outdated info?") and my comment here [5]:

Since this is the second time that you accuse me of being a sock puppet, I advise you to follow DCV's suggestion and request a sockpuppet check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser I will accept your apology here or on my user page after you got the results.CoYep 14:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

and here [6]

I guess for some it's easier to delute themselves in believing that there is only one opponent with sock puppets than to accept the obvious, that indeed several editors are disagreeing with their edits. I often just click on the edit button and start editing, not because "I intentionally want to confuse" you, I simply forget to sign in first. Most of the time I realize it only when I'm leaving a note on the talk page, and my IP shows up instead of my sig. I then sign in and correct my signature, as I did several times on this talk page. So in a matter of fact, one just needs to look at my IP here to get an idea which article edits might be mine. To me, the identity of the editors is irrelevant. Reviewing the edits and sources thoroughly, and to spend time to check the validity and Verifiability is IMO more constructive than to waste time to check user ID's and then blindly revert or accept edits simply because "it was editor x who did it". Anyway, I would appreciate it if you could either a) chill with your false accusations or b) provide the results of a user check so we can put this tiresome discussion ad acta. CoYep 02:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

CoYep 03:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. I want you to contribute to the article as varied voices are a good thing and reduce POV. If it were solely deeceevoice working on the article (which it was originally, I believe), then the article would be very POV as it was in the past. I simply don't like the use of numerous IPs for edits as it confuses the situation. I'm not afrocentric btw, as I've stated elsewhere, so I would appreciate if you would stop making that claim against me. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 04:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


As you can see from that edit the way you responded to my points addressed to the anon. makes it seem as if you acknowledged those edits were yours, but you didn't deny it when I asked you that question. As I said in the evidence section, it is possible that some of those IPs may not be yours, but those beginning with 84.178.2 seem to be. Do you deny that the 84.178.2 edits are yours using your IP? — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 04:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here is my response from the talk page:
I don't believe only one person disagrees with my views, as plenty of edits to this article against my position were by people other than you. I didn't say that the confusion was necessarily intentional, either, but I do think that, whether or not you mean it, it confuses others and any edits under IP don't reflect on your user name. The reason I like to know the identity of the editors is so that I can avoid posting discussions all over the place as I had to when there were numerous IPs editing the page. It's unlikely that so many IPs would edit the article as soon as they got here and then not continue to exist or edit other articles. I'd be happy to be proven wrong as I don't like the idea of numerous accounts, but realize that I am chill. I haven't lost my temper during this discussion, and realize that most of the edits (in fact almost all) weren't about verifiability or validity but the relevance of including some images. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 04:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 04:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you delete the tag from your talk page, by the way? That's prohibited in the notes for the accused, I believe. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 04:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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