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Didgeridoo2022

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29 November 2023[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

ZogNitKeynmol (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools

ZogNitKeynmol seems like an obvious sock, and most of his edits are related to Didgeridoo2000. After some alibi-edits on his user page he joins an AfD discussion, where Didgeridoo2022 was one of the first commenters (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reuben Solomon). ZogNitKeynmol also supports Didgeridoo2022 in the article Henry E. (Hank) Scott, where he reverted a deletion of unsourced content ([1]). Two days ago, they both joined the same AfD discussion in the middle of the night with similar comments (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sven Odia). It also seems relatively odd that they both support a suspected paid article (to which they both have no obvious connection) in the same manner, so maybe there could be a bigger network than only these two accounts. Icodense (talk) 17:42, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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I know editor ZogNitKeynmol, he lives nearby.

He has his own account and his own IP.

He is astonished, like me, that you question our integrity.

Is it wrong that we know each other?

There is certainly no intent at collusion or WP:COI.

I spoke to him this morning, (our time), and we both apologise if you think otherwise - we are both just trying to contribute in a useful manner.

Didgeridoo2022 (talk) 03:06, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

Clerk endorsed - Please, compare those two. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible - they are located near each other, and while both are using a similar (and common) device, there are no overlaps between their network connections.

Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:25, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked the behavioural evidence. There are sufficient contrasts between the two accounts that it seems unlikely that they are the same person, but there is more than enough similarly to make it clear that they have not been editing completely independently. There is a question of where to draw a line between, on the one hand, perfectly legitimate editing by two people who know one another and have discussed matters relating to Wikipedia, and, on the other hand, the kind of dishonest collusion that is regarded as meatpuppetry. It seems to me that these two editors are on the legitimate side of that line, so no action against them is justified. However, they would both be well advised to read WP:MEAT, if they haven't already done so, and be careful to make sure that they keep clear of anything that might be considered meatpuppetry. JBW (talk) 21:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]