Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Lukas19-LSLM

Case Opened on 17:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Case Closed on 13:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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Involved parties

• Lukas19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• LSLM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (signs posts as "Veritas et Severitas")

Requests for comment

• Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/LSLM

Statement by Lukas19

Besides his past disruptive behaviour, ranging from vandalism to block evasion, User:LSLM has been making persistant personal attacks against me as well as harrassing me by creating sections that target me, in talk pages. I had created an RfC for this in 20 February 2007 [1] and the last comment to this was 1 March 2007 [2]. Since then he has made new such attack sections and more personal attacks. [3], [4], [5] (Note: Besides the fact he ended his post with "Veritas", 72.144.177.77 has the same location with LSLM [6] [7]), [8] and more...

Also, despite the fact that he claims that he forgets to sign on (and this is very often), he may be continueing to abusing this. As explained before, he has evaded blocks before: [9] [10] And after the RfC has been filed: [11] "Reverting Lukas POV pushing against LSM, Carwill and Behnam" This is clearly the IP of LSLM, but initially he said POV pushing against LSL(M). Unless he refers to himself in third person, it looks like he is trying to make it look like that there is actually more support for his unexplained reverts.

Statement by LSLM

This guy seems to like this a lot. Here you have this that he also opened against me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/LSLM#LSLM_continues

Read it yourselves. I have no further comment, but this guy's bullying should be stopped. Veritas et Severitas 00:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Stevertigo

Per Lukas' request: As the mediator for an ongoing dispute at white people, Ive had some dealings with Lukas. He is young and somewhat unfamiliar with certain concepts of community, but in a short time he has made marked improvements to his powers of articulation and willingness to be more forthcoming with his views. Nevertheless his arguments can be somewhat incoherent (or else incomprehensible), needlessly argumentative, fixated on particular aspects and subjects, and tenacious about asserting his own particular aji, rather than finding compromises - which often don't appear to satisfy him. I hesitate to call him a pov-pusher, but don't hesitate at all to state that his intellect and energies would be more usefully applied to other areas, such that I would hope other subjects might catch his interest and take him in new directions.

I am unfamiliar with LSLM except to say that from what little Ive read here, his mode of behavior deserves some review. -Stevertigo 00:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Preliminary decisions

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (4/0/0/0)

• Accept. Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
• Accept to review both editors' behavior. Note that the initiator of this request might not appreciate the result of this request. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 17:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
• Accept. Charles Matthews 19:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
• Accept. - SimonP 23:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Final decision

All numbering based on /Proposed decision (vote counts and comments are there as well)

Principles

Wikipedia is not a battleground

1) Wikipedia is a reference work. Use of the site for political struggle accompanied by harassment of opponents is extremely disruptive.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a soapbox

2) The use of Wikipedia for political propaganda is prohibited.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Courtesy

3) Wikipedia users are expected to behave reasonably and calmly in their dealings with other users. Insulting and intimidating other users harms the community by creating a hostile environment. Personal attacks are not acceptable.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Tendentious editing

5) Users who disrupt the editing of articles by engaging in sustained aggressive point of view editing may be banned from the affected articles. In extreme cases they may be banned from the site.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

6) Users who engage in disruptive editing may be banned from the site.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Findings of fact

LSLM

1.1) LSLM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has a history of disruptive behavior including edit-warring ([12]), political soapboxing ([13], [14]), attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ([15], [16]), and personal attacks ([17], [18], [19]).

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Lukas19 was Thulean

2) Lukas19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) edited fomerly under the account Thulean (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) ([20])

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Lukas19

3) Lukas19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) edits almost exclusively on topics related to race, and has an extensive history of tendentious edit-warring there ([21], [22]).

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

LSLM banned

1) LSLM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Lukas19 banned

2) Lukas19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Passed 7 to 0, 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Log of blocks and bans

Log any block, ban or extension under any remedy in this decision here. Minimum information includes name of administrator, date and time, what was done and the basis for doing it.

• Lukas19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and LSLM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) blocked for one year to implement the ban. Thatcher131 14:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Thulean (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) also blocked for one year as an alternate account of Lukas19. Newyorkbrad 14:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• KarenAER (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and KarenAE (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) blocked as sockpuppets of Lukas19. Picaroon (t) 02:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
• 14:09, 29 August 2007 MaxSem blocked "Lukas19 (talk · contribs)" (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 year (reset 1 year arbcom ban due to sockpuppetry)