Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4

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May 4[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 4, 2022.

Software Update[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 13#Software Update

Strings (2014 film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 20:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially failed WP:CRYSTAL. The target film was released in 2015, not 2014. The properly dated title, Strings (2015 film), is a redirect towards the same page as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Keep. This does seem to be getting some kind of incoming traffic from somewhere (10-20 views a month) and the article spent 2 years at this title. Based on continuing usage I think we should keep this for now. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 23:14, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 15:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per WP:RFD#KEEP #4: "Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason." —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 10:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Stirrer (cooking)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 24#Stirrer (cooking)

Poor housing[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 24#Poor housing

Dab hand[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 14#Dab hand

Flowering herbs[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 12#Flowering herbs

IND West End Line[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:RFD#DELETE criterion #2: "The redirect might cause confusion" and criterion #8: "If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful." This redirect is extremely misleading, as the Independent Subway System never operated any of these eleven lines. Epicgenius (talk) 21:46, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Relative algebraic closure[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Algebraic extension#Relative algebraic closures per D.Lazard (non-admin closure) 1234qwer1234qwer4 07:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep or and retarget to algebraic extension until a gap in Wikipedia coverage will be filled. In fact, the concept is notable and almost self explanatory, but not defined in WP: the relative algebraic closure of a field K in a extension field L is the largest algebraic extension of K that is contained in L. For example, the algebraic closure of in it the field of all real algebraic numbers. D.Lazard (talk) 20:21, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. When I created the redirect, the term was defined in the Algebraically closed field article. But it was removed from that article a few weeks later, in this edit. The redirect currently serves no purpose, but the term ought to be defined somewhere in Wikipedia, and I don't think it merits its own article, so a redirect will be needed eventually. --Zundark (talk) 07:52, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I've re-added the definition to Algebraic extension. (The original remover User:JCSantos wrote that that stuff "should be put at the articla [sic] about algebraic closures", but relative algebraic closures are not (usually) algebraic closures per se, so I think that they are better off being covered at Algebraic extension.) Retarget to Algebraic extension now that the content we want for this redirect is there. Duckmather (talk) 22:54, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I have updated my !non-vote for taking Duckmather's edits into account. If 1234qwer1234qwer4 agrees, we could speedy close this discussion per as WP:SNOWBALL. D.Lazard (talk) 07:48, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, seems fine to me. 1234qwer1234qwer4 07:52, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Athletics at the 1984 Summer Olympics –– Men's marathon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. plicit 03:40, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This first redirect is the only title on Wikipedia which uses two consecutive en dashes. It seems as though it was created in error back when it was created. So, probably best to delete this due to being implausible and WP:COSTLY. (The second redirect is nominated since a bot created it based on the first redirect for typing ease.( Steel1943 (talk) 19:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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ECA---Electrical Circuit Analysis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Though the acronym apparently represents the remainder of the title, the triple dash makes this redirect an implausible and WP:COSTLY redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 19:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, highly unlikely search term. The redirect Electrical circuit analysis already exists and the acronym can be added to the ECA disambiguation page if necessary. However, the acronym is not mentioned on the target page, as an electrical engineer I don't recall ever having come across it, and a quick search of gbooks didn't turn up any usages. SpinningSpark 13:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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2010– in anthropology[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Due to the open ended time frame, the redirects assumes the target list includes information from 2010–present, which is not the case; the scope of the target article is limited to the 2010s. Steel1943 (talk) 19:01, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Friday Night Lights- (Album)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 03:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No title on the target page ends with a dash ("Nights-"), making this redirect unlikely and potentially unhelpful/misleading. A WP:COSTLY situation. Steel1943 (talk) 18:54, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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KASU- The Bear[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:38, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 18:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. This is a former article that was WP:BLARed in 2014 and the radio station does exist, but the article most likely wouldn't survive a WP:AFD discussion if restored. - Eureka Lott 00:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Dead-end- corridor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:38, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, no evidence the redirect's term and the targetNs term are synonymous, and the redirect is unlikely as a search term in general due to the odd use of dashes and a space after a dash. Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Yevrey[edit]

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ProSystem (Emulator)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

The emulator isn't mentioned in the target article with the exception of an external link, which I don't think is sufficient for this redirect to be useful, or in any other article. Discussion at the talk page hasn't resulted in any apparent enthusiasm to add a mention. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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North Sindhi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:39, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned as an alternative name at the target, no relevant results on Google Scholar or an internet search, delete unless evidence of usage can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is appropriate to the name of respective area. This language is spoken in the northern part of Sindh and the name of this language means "related to the north".
The etymology for the Name of this language is present in this page which is related to this redirect.
The objector should give reason so that I can get guidance. Compa 900 (talk) 18:51, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The phrase "North Sindhi" would refer to northern dialects of the Sindhi language, not to the varieties of other languages that are also spoken in the north of Sindh. – Uanfala (talk) 11:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Uanfala unless a citation showing this is a genuine synonym is offered. SpinningSpark 12:16, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Euclidean norm[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 14#Euclidean norm

APRIL2023[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Paulmcdonald per criteria G7 and R3. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

R3 Happy Editing--IAmChaos 14:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per R3, as the page creator. The article is indeed not in the WP namespace. lol1VNIO[not Lol1VNIO] (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 14:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Funny Garbage[edit]

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Hawaii World War II Army Airfields[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to United States Army Air Forces in the Central Pacific Area. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:25, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is United States Army Air Forces in the Central Pacific Area a better target than this cross-namespace redirect? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget per nom. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 14:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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l England[edit]

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Live entertainment[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Live entertainment" can also refer to Concert. AKK700 22:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: hopelessly ambiguous (it can refer to numerous things, including any performing arts performed live, football, or public poetry reading). Veverve (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's a {{R from other capitalization}} for "LIVE Entertainment", an alternative name for the target page. Unless the redirect is replaced with a disambiguation page, this title is serving its most useful purpose. Steel1943 (talk) 23:33, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate or retarget to some appropriate page such as Performance or Live performance (the latter is currently at AfD). Artisan Entertainment is clearly not the primary topic for the phrase "Live entertainment", so the redirect should not be kept as is, and deletion doesn't help for the reason User:Steel1943 has pointed out. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:23, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete misleading -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 02:37, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as ambiguous. The closest possible target would seem to be Live performance, but as stated above that still does not encompass all possible meanings. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Disambiguate per BD2412. I don't think the links in the draft dab capture every possible meaning (a search link should be added to see also), but it is superior to deletion because otherwise users searching the term will be brought to the target of LIVE Entertainment and most will likely be WP:R#ASTONISHed. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:10, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate, as there are a clear multiplicity of possible meanings with corresponding articles. BD2412 T 03:09, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Outline of entertainment#Live entertainment and hatnote for the company. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:54, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The problem I see there is that it only addresses one of two plausible generic meanings of "live entertainment". That link points to entertainment to which one goes in person, like a play or a concert or an airshow. However, live entertainment can also refer to things that are broadcast live over radio or TV or the like. BD2412 T 15:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Apostolic Catholic Church[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Catholic Apostolic Church (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:14, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe the redirect should be retargeted to Catholic Apostolic Church (disambiguation), as 'Apostolic Catholic Church' and 'Catholic Apostolic Church' are very prone to get confused. Veverve (talk) 17:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget to DAB per nom. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 14:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Ancient Catholic Church of the Netherlands[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:46, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found no source claiming this expression is ever used to designate this group or Old Catholicism. Britannica does not say anything; Google scholar uses refer to catholic (term) with no reference to Old Catholics, and "Ancient Catholic Church of the Netherlands" gives one result which is a self-published (iUniverse) book that does not help in knowing whether it is the same entity or another group called 'Ancient Catholic Church of the Netherlands'. It was previously stated that "Ancient Catholic Church" was one of the names of this group; I have removed this information since it was nowhere to be found.
The best explanation I can find is that it is an erroneous translation of the expression 'Oud-Katholieke' ('Old Catholic').
The expression itself is very ambiguous.
Therefore, I think those should be deleted.
Note : the separation between this RfD and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 17#Ancient Catholic Church is on purpose. Veverve (talk) 22:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per WP:CHEAP. I think that unlike the ones below [ see RfD ] that are just the Ancient catholic church in general, when you add the of the Netherlands qualifier, the WP:SURPRISE element goes away. It is to some extent implausible, but it's not seeming to cause any issues here. I will say, the self published source gives me some pause just because it is unclear as to what that is referring and if that is referring to a different church that someone other than the author uses to mean a different church, then this probably should be deleted, but seeing no evidence of that I still think these should be kept. Just as a note, thank you Veverve for splitting these nominations up. I really appreciate it. TartarTorte 18:11, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @TartarTorte: thanks. As for your argument: redirects are cheap, but must have a logical reason to exist. 'Ancient Catholic Church of the Netherlands' is never used to refer to the Old Catholic Church of the Netherlands. Veverve (talk) 08:16, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete - it is incorrect as a title and seems like an unlikely search term (possibly originating by mistranslating to the French cognate ancien?), but it also seems relatively harmless. signed, Rosguill talk 20:29, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Old Catholic church is the more generally recognised term, and has a stronger apostolic succession. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Custard pear[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:41, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't seem to be evidence that the target article's subject is referred to in any capacity as a "custard pear". There is evidence that this fruit and similar fruits are called "Custard apple", but not "pear". Steel1943 (talk) 06:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Foreign matter in refined sugar[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:41, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't seem to be adequate information in the target article to warrant this redirect. Readers being directed to this redirect's target will not find what they are looking for. Also, this redirect was an article for less than a day in 2010 before being WP:BLAR-ed. In addition, the redirect Refined sugar targets White sugar, and the subject of the nominated redirect doesn't seem to be present there either. Steel1943 (talk) 06:02, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Very specific and not useful. BD2412 T 03:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete to encourage article creation. I think it's quite plausible that consumers + scientists would be interested in the impurities/toxins/bacteria/etc. contained in commercially sold refined sugar (e.g. this 2005 paper finds that refined sugar from the EU or from Serbia has tiny amounts of trace metals). (The old article reads like a poorly written scientific abstract, complete with a corresponding author! - so very much not suitable for restoration.) Duckmather (talk) 00:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Absatz[edit]

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