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December 7[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 7, 2020.

Things to do in dubai[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Violates WP:TRAVELGUIDE. Dominicmgm (talk) 21:34, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Pro-Soviet[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Nobody is happy with the status quo, and while several retargetting suggestions were proposed none of them gained consensus and significant problems were raised with them, so I find the comments in favour of deletion the strongest. This is without prejudice to an article on the topic. Thryduulf (talk) 03:17, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I'm not sure if this is the correct target for this, or even if this redirect should exist. I think that this could also reasonably refer to the Bolsheviks, their ideology, Bolshevism, or maybe even the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. TheAwesomeHwyh 16:10, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There's been a decent amount of discussion, but no clear sign of what should be done with the redirect.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 00:05, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm hoping an additional relist will help to discuss the recent suggestion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This isn't always patriotism, as support for the Soviet Union is not something only expressed by Soviet people, so retargeting there would be misleading. Peter James (talk) 17:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Could we redirect this to Russophilia, possibly? Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Russophilia is the best suggestion I've seen here, but there isn't much explicit coverage of the Soviet Union as such, and has the opposite problem of that the Peter James notes for Soviet patriotism (i.e., "[group]-philia" generally means from those outside the group). It's possible this could ultimately be disambiguated, but I don't see a better option than deletion right now. --BDD (talk) 21:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per BDD. It's likely that an article could be written about Pro-Soviet sentiment, but no such article currently exists and the alternative potential targets are all lacking. signed, Rosguill talk 22:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario/Archive 7[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete, WP:G6. --BDD (talk) 17:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected numbering Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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St. Pauls school,Winchmore Hill,London[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 15#St. Pauls school,Winchmore Hill,London

MAGAt[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 14#MAGAt

Kernel computer science[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Kernel (operating system). (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 12:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely disambiguation; we are not Google. Almost no pageviews. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Antonia (daughter of Mark Antony)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Mark Antony#Marriages and issue. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 12:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Antony had at least three daughters who were named Antonia. Therefore this is not a great redirect to the wife of Pythodoros. ★Trekker (talk) 16:31, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Ladakh and Baltistan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Kashmir#Current status and political divisions. Formally no consensus, but since no one is in favor of the status quo we can implement the redirect. signed, Rosguill talk 17:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY. Soumya-8974 (he) talk contribs subpages 05:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Kashmir#Current status and political divisions which deals with both areas and links to specific articles. The page view data shows that this is well used, and we have a relevant encompassing topic so there is no reason not to be as helpful to readers as we can. Thryduulf (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Thryduulf: Do you mean Kashmir#Current_status_and_political_divisions? ―NK1406 talk•contribs 03:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@NK1406: I do indeed, typo now corrected. Thryduulf (talk) 12:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per Thryduulf to Kashmir#Current status and political divisions, which is often a comfortable default for a lot of these unavoidably ambiguous geographical and political redirects in this area. The current target is clearly a WP:XY violation, as Baltistan is clearly distinct from Ladakh, but in this case we do have a good target that exists to solve Kashmir-related ambiguities such as this. ~ mazca talk 12:50, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The proposed new target doesn't have anything that would clarify for readers why these two terms would be conjoined in this phrase. This is as confusing as having something like Ontario and Manitoba redirecting to Canada. There's also no meaningful usage: the redirect gets only a single view each week. And incidentally, the current target is actually better than the proposed one, as Baltistan was part of the historic Ladakh region (see Ladakh#Geography). – Uanfala (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Daleri[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. No other plausible target can be found. Jalen Folf (talk) 05:25, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment, leaning delete. This artist is actually mentioned at the target, but only as a single entry in the large table in the Standard releases section (it's the third release of 2015). There is also a slightly more than passing mention at Big room house#Criticism but I don't think that would satisfy someone looking for information about them. Thryduulf (talk) 12:33, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Fourth (time)[edit]

 Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 14#Fourth (time)

Things to do in Sydney[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a travel guide. If someone were to type "Things to do in Sydney" they should Google it, or go on Tripadvisor or a travel website. (If someone said "Things to do in Sydney" on the iPhone's Siri it gives them a Wikipedia article instead of a web search/things to do in Sydney.) Nearly but not perfect (talk) 06:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thrr[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 14#Thrr

🇺🇸[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Apparently, looking at emojipedia, it is expected that "🇺🇸" does not display a flag as Windows does not officially support many flags. Though it is made by combining two separate unicode characters into one. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 17:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose retargeting to United States. Reason: While it displays as a US flag on mobile, it displays as the letters "US" on desktop. I am using Windows 10 version 2009. Aasim (talk) 05:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The emoji is defined specifically as the flag of the United States, not the United States itself. The article I linked also briefly explains why it displays that way for unsupported platforms. -- Tavix (talk) 05:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. See 🇨🇦 or 🇲🇽, just because it doesn’t show up for some people doesn’t mean the redirect should be deleted. --Rqkp (talk) 05:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not saying "Delete", I am saying "retarget". Aasim (talk) 07:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Tavix and Rqkp. The emoji's meaning is defined as the flag so it should target the article about the flag. Thryduulf (talk) 10:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above, though it would be best if the target actually contained this character sequence (see e.g. Flag of Russia#Unicode, Flag of Croatia#Unicode, Flag of Wales#Modern use). 61.239.39.90 (talk) 11:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do not retarget While there might be a case for deleting this and all other "flag" emoji redirects, the best target is the current one, "flag of [countryname]," per official definition as listed at https://emojipedia.org/flag-united-states/ and the documents it cites. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Political divisions Albania[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per G7. -- Tavix (talk) 04:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete. I omitted "of". Iketsi (talk) 04:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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ITunes Music Store Protocol[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Protocol" is not mentioned at the target, and I don't see this as something that would reasonably be searched for. -- Tavix (talk) 04:06, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Apple ecosystem[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 14#Apple ecosystem

List of television shows available in iTunes Music Store[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lede states that 25,000 TV shows are available on the iTunes Store, so this would be quite an impossibly incomplete list if actually attempted. -- Tavix (talk) 03:54, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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ITunes Essentials: Avril Lavigne[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is no mention of this at the target, nor at the previous target Avril Lavigne discography. To quote the edit history: "Almost every artist with a hefty music catalog has an iTunes Essentials package". -- Tavix (talk) 03:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. This seems useless. Dominicmgm (talk) 21:31, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, unless that compilation is notable in itself, which it isn't. Compare with The Essential disambiguation, which lists albums that have been independently notable from the brand. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Dollar storm[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

None of these terms are supported by the target article, leaving the searcher none the wiser. -- Tavix (talk) 03:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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