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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 7, 2019.

Water fab

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 11:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These redirects should be deleted because they are unhelpful. "Water" is a legitimate search term, but all of these redirects are not because they refer to non-existent things. However, should a search for articles or terms containing "water" be performed, these redirects will show up in the results and hide legitimate results. Further more, some these redirects can mislead the reader, or cause unnecessary confusion, by appearing as legitimate topics related to water, only to redirect to an unrelated article about semiconductor fabrication. I suspect these redirects were created for convenience, because it is possible to mistype "wafer" (which is something related to semiconductor fabrication) as "water" on a QWERTY keyboard, since the T and F keys are next to each other. The problem with this "convenience" is that while it's possible to mistype "wafer" in the manner assumed, it's also just as likely that some other key next to the F key could be struck instead, and there's no reason to preference the mistyping assumed by these redirects. Finally, these redirects will never be used in articles because they don't convey the intended meaning. 99Electrons (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Xian (abbreviation)

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 11:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Starting a discussion as to the proper target for this redirect. General consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xian (abbreviation) was to redirect somewhere, but there was no consensus as to the target page. Of the choices offered, it looks like only Christian (given name) has any mention of the term at all. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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"Template:Template" redirects

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The result of the discussion was delete. I've replaced the remaining mainspace transclusions ~ Amory (utc) 16:03, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete We've all done it: included "Template" when the code adds it for you. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

delete, unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Movie: crash

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 22:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Incorrectly structured titles. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Article(publishing)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 22:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete misformatted disambiguator (missing a space). UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Cashina Krabs

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 11:38, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article. The subject of this redirect seems to be a character in only one episode of SpongeBob SquarePants where the subject of the target article married money, but is neither mentioned at the target or listed at List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters. Steel1943 (talk) 23:13, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Polystar

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:17, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, since Polystar is no UMG, and the article on UMG does not mention Polystar at all. RekishiEJ (talk) 07:16, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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El Tigre (comics)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Sabretooth (comics). -- Tavix (talk) 18:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kukulcan is not mentioned in the list article, and El Tigre is not listed at #E or #T. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Media racism

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Mass media#Racism and stereotyping. ~ Amory (utc) 22:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not exclusive to target, and could be seen as a WP:SURPRISE. Steel1943 (talk) 23:12, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: When researching this I discovered the redirect Racism in mass media which should be considered alongside this one, so I've relisted this disucssion to give it a fair hearing
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QUALIFIED TEACHER LEARNING AND SKILLS

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 22:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RCAPS. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch railway station

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is no point redirecting this to the railway station. The full name of this place is already redirected to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll which is sufficient enough. The extra "railway station" part is not required. It is unlikely that this full term will be typed up and searched to find this railway station. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep There are two articles with links to this page, and in each of those cases the full title is relevant because of the length of the name. (Another link is to the target of the redirect, so no need for the redirect in that case.) This redirect doesn't apparently satisfy WP:RFD#HARMFUL. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. While it is unlikely that someone will type out the full term, that is far from the only way redirects are used. One can copy and paste the full name, which seems plausible to me. Additionally, redirects are used via linking and David Biddulph has shown that this redirect is being used in this fashion. -- Tavix (talk) 16:44, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in addition to the above, the railway station is the reason for the very long name, and the station is famous for this name - it appears in countless lists of facts and trivia, etc, for example - so it is near certain that there are links to this title from outside Wikipedia that would needlessly be broken. Thryduulf (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Qrigin of Species

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 15:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is unlikely that someone will put a "q" at the beginning of "origin" so this is not an obvious misspelling of "origin". Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Wik.is

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Alabama (band)

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Wikipedia:NAWARD

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 15:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting this shortcut to be deleted since the AfD participants (example here and here) are misquoting the shortcut as an acceptable notability criteria for awards which it never was. DBigXray 13:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn by nominator per WP:WDAFD since the community believes that redirects to unvetted proposals can be kept in WP space. --DBigXray 20:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Danski454, appreciate your kind feedback, based on your suggestion I have started the MFD discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Notability (awards). inspite of the MfD, I do believe we should also discuss the benefits of keeping this redirect, when it leads to folks thinking to believe confuses folks into believing that its a valid notability policy. --DBigXray 14:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:AngusWOOF as Thryduulf rightly said, your comment should be made at MfD, they are indeed valid questions. AFAIK there isn't any community consensus page or RfC for award notability. This WP:NAWARD definitely isn't one and it should not exist to mislead AfD participants as has happened in the examples I gave. Because of these reason this redirect and corresponding target page is actually doing more harm than good. hence I believe it should be deleted. --DBigXray 19:44, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I've added my comments there. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Speculated to have been autistic

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 15:34, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Originally an r from typo, now lost in the bot changes. Implausible. [Username Needed] 10:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Little Ed Blue/A Twist of Ed

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 01:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's already a redirect for Little Ed Blue, so why have this longer one, too? Paper Luigi TC 09:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Run Ed Run / A Town Called Ed

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes#ep66. Deryck C. 18:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant and implausible redirect. There's a redirect for Run Ed Run already, so why have both? Paper Luigi TC 08:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Take This Ed and Shove It Pts. 1 and 2

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes#ep52. Deryck C. 18:39, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect. There exists a redirect already for Take This Ed and Shove It. Paper Luigi TC 08:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Special episodes

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Talk:Once upon an Ed

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The result of the discussion was restore page. Early close given clear resolution. In addition, the fate of this page is tied to the upcoming result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 7#Once upon an Ed. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 23:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect from one namespace to another. Paper Luigi TC 08:55, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Once Upon An Ed

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes#ep28. Deryck C. 18:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant redirect. Once upon an Ed already exists. Paper Luigi TC 08:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Full version of Avast Ye Eds

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect at best. This article's only noteworthy edit history is a fan-made plot summary. Paper Luigi TC 08:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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For the Ed, By the Ed

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 15:33, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is unnecessary because For the Ed, by the Ed already exists. Paper Luigi TC 08:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: you do understand that when an admin moves a page a redirect is automatically created. That redirect is from the existing page that was titled incorrectly and redirected to the correct page after it was moved. I have no feelings on it being deleted or not. «»Who?¿? 16:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Season 5

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10th province of the kingdom of armenia

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Rivals

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. on whether "Rivals" should point to Rivalry or Rival (disambiguation). Therefore, I will default to "do nothing". -- Tavix (talk) 20:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just closed Talk:Rival (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 December 2018 as move. There was some discussion over where Rivals should target. Should this point to Rivalry or Rival (disambiguation)? feminist (talk) 04:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep pointing to Rivalry as with Rival. Anyone looking for the dab page should try it with (disambiguation) AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:35, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to the disambiguation page. Looking at google searches for "Rivals" excluding Wikipedia and mirrors and it's clear that there is no primary topic. Re AngusWOOF: yes, anyone looking for the disambiguation page should search Rivals (disambiguation) (which is why we should have such links to set indexes also), but most people are looking for a topic - just there is no single one that the significant majority are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Point to disambiguation page. ("Keep" and "retarget" seems to have swapped meanings halfway down the discussion.) I contemplated closing the discussion but couldn't confidently call a "rough consensus" either way, and there's no status quo ante to default to, so I may as well vote. The disambiguation page includes some artistic works whose titles are in the plural, so I think the s in the title pushes it just over the edge for me to think it's worth the disambiguation. Deryck C. 18:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I think in this case the status quo ante to default to is redirecting to the DAB, since the DAB was moved, the status quo would be the new location of the DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:39, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • If we were to eliminate all of the partial title matches on the disambiguation page, are there any significant uses of the word "Rivals" as a name that are not references to a rivalry, real or fictional? Note that I would consider instances of "The Rivals" to be partial to the extent that there is no basis for thinking that these are commonly referred to as "Rivals" without a preceding "The". bd2412 T 15:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Tony Bray

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) AlbanGeller (talk) 03:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect from the name of a person notable only for briefly dating the redirect target in her youth. He's not a plausible search term on this basis, because even the few people who've ever heard of him at all would still be unlikely to expect him to have an encyclopedia article. Bearcat (talk) 01:32, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Anthony Bray definitely goes to the band member. Tony is less used, mentioned in some random articles, but does not seem to be an actual credit for their album which is Abaddon. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 02:49, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We don't routinely create DABMENTION redirects for every person who happens to get briefly namechecked in an article about somebody else; we do that only if there's a reason to believe the person is still a plausible search term in their own right even if they don't quite clear a notability standard. Bearcat (talk) 17:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisting comment: Involved relist to close an old log page.
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  • Delete. DABMENTION is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for something to be included in a dab page. Young Miss Thatcher's boyfriens is mentioned several times in her article, but that's only providing a vantage point on her: there's no substantial content about himself to warrant either a redirect or inclusion in a dab page. The band member, on the other hand, is more eligible, but I'm not sure how far we'd want to go creating redirects about alternative names of band members. I'd rather we leave it to the search engine in this case as it appears to be doing its job well enough. – Uanfala (talk) 15:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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