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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 5, 2018.

The Journal of Criminal Law

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:09, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirect. Journal of Criminal Law refers to ISSN 0022-0183, by Sage. Not Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology (or any of its past names) by the Northwestern University School of Law. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:21, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BAU logo.png

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G6 per {{Db-redircom}}. -- Tavix (talk) 15:08, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect shadowing commons, No mainspace links ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm.... So what's the solution to declipsing the commons file? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Harrison.jpg

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G6 per {{Db-redircom}}. -- Tavix (talk) 15:07, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Shadowing Commons ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:35, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Yaffa cafe

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:10, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

'Yaffe cafe' is not mentioned in 8th Street / St. Mark's Place (Manhattan); the only use of the name is in Mike Hindert. Leschnei (talk) 19:14, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I need to start searching more carefully! Yes, please. But I'm not sure what wiki text to add above, since I used Twinkle to place this here in the first place. Leschnei (talk) 18:48, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. -- Tavix (talk) 20:05, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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DJ Proteus

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 19:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Name used to redirect to List of DJ Magazine's Top 100 DJs, which was presumably tangentially related, but potentially defensible as an {{R to list entry}}. However, with the list deleted, this redirect was changed to DJ Mag, which makes it a redirect from a DJ to a seemingly arbitrary magazine about DJs. This redirect needs a better target or it likely should be deleted. Ost (talk) 18:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Cat;att

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus. Opinion is split between "These are useful shortcuts" and "Pseudo-namespace shortcuts are discouraged and these even have typos". Defaulting to do nothing, i.e. keep. Deryck C. 16:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Unlikely typos that create unnecessary cross-namespace redirects. We have regularly deleted the similar WP; redirects. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:38, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Plausible typo - typing a semi colon because you release the shift key a fraction of a second too soon when typing the colon. Declaration I created this redirect, as I was typing in cat;att LOADS of times, and got rather fed up as a result. I still make that error (bloomin' muscle memory...). Stephen! Coming... 17:20, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep RKEEP 5, "Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways". I don't understand why such redirects would be deleted, because they're quite harmless and wouldn't have been created if they weren't plausible. I can't quite understand why this typo would occur (how do you release the shift key a fraction of a second too soon), but since it's being made, we ought to serve people who are making it. Nyttend (talk) 11:31, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Pseudonamespace redirects are generally discouraged (see this RfC from 2014). Still, there are good reasons to keep the existing proper shortcuts like CAT:ATT, but not ones that are misspellings of them: in this case there's a combination of a typo (semicolon for colon) and improper capitalisation (lower case instead of the expected all caps). – Uanfala (talk) 12:56, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Apple peru

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte (talk | work) 13:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible misnomer, more likely to imply an Apple Inc. subsidiary in Peru. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:03, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 10:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete; given the existence of "apple-Peru", "apple Peru" makes sense and "apple-peru" could be useful, but as "Peru" is always a proper noun, someone who hears the phrase would be inclined to capitalise it (and if you're not familiar with the country name, wouldn't you be more likely to use something like "peroo"?), and thus I don't see the combination of no-hyphen and no-capitalisation as particularly plausible. Nyttend (talk) 11:38, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, given there is nowhere on Wikipedia that discusses an Apple Inc. subsidiary in Peru. -- Tavix (talk) 17:52, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete I'm not too fussed about the capitalization, but the only other use of this phrase on Wikipedia, at List of poliomyelitis survivors#Retrospective diagnosis, suggests the phrase could also refer to the common tomato. I think Apple Inc. is a red herring in this discussion, but there still may be ambiguity. --BDD (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Tube lock

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 14:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for "tube lock" with Google shows several modern uses relating to dentistry, hearing aids, model helicopters, and other mechanical things. Seaching within WP hits none of these - only five occurrences related to firearms. So this may be the best target of existing WP content but still not what most people are trying to find. MB 03:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. If there's only one type of tube lock that's mentioned in the encyclopaedia then this should point to the most relevant article. If there are other topics by the same name that are notable or enyclopaedic then this can be retargeted or turned into a disambiguation page as appropriate when they're actually discussed in the encyclopaedia, but at present there's no better target and no benefit to deleting this. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Diane DiPiaza

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. The motion to delete this redirect due to "Diane DiPiazza" or "Diane DiPiazza" not being mentioned in the redirect target was unanimously adopted by all participants. Concerns were raised by Nyttend that the redirects could not be deleted due to attribution ("legal") reasons, but those concerns were retracted after the discovery of Talk:Misfits_(band)/Archive_1#Merger of Diane DiPiazza, which notes that no content was ultimately merged from these redirects. Based on this and the overall consensus, I have gone ahead and closed this as "delete". TheSandDoctor Talk 08:27, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bringing from the Help Desk. "Currently this wikilink redirects to Misfits (band), even though DiPiaza was never part of the band. I blanked the page a while back, but someone reverted me [5]. What's the best way to resolve this? Thanks! David O. Johnson (talk) 07:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC)" Legacypac (talk) 07:20, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating:

for the same reason, so the issue raised by Nyttend can be dealt with at the same time. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:13, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question What do you want to be done with it? Deletion is absolutely not an option, so please explain what you'd like to see. Is my suggestion, Talk:Misfits (band)/old history, something workable in your mind? Nyttend backup (talk) 18:55, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both since DiPiaz(z)a is not mentioned at the target. Attribution is no longer necessary since nothing that was merged remains at the target. -- Tavix (talk) 19:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both - Saw this discussed at the help desk. I found what looks like a fairly reliable source saying that Diane DiPiazza was briefly in the Misfits, even though she isn't included in the article. [[4]] So that's issue number one. The issue at hand - does a brief tenure with a band, yet no notability otherwise - warrant a redirect to the band's article? I think not. People searching for her are not going to get any satisfaction being redirected. If she's at least mentioned in the article in the former member section, with the source I found, the band's article will come up when people search for her by name in the search box. That's more than enough. So I support the deletion of both redirects. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:27, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Tim and Tavix, deletion is not an option for legal reasons; deletion would break the attribution history for merged content. If no argument for doing something else is advanced, I will speedy close this proposal, because it's unintentionally attempting to create a copyright infringement. Nyttend (talk) 19:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with your assessment. There is no merged content at the target, so there is no attribution required. -- Tavix (talk) 19:34, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My apology; I just discovered Talk:Misfits_(band)/Archive_1#Merger of Diane DiPiazza to this article, which notes that no content was merged. Nyttend (talk) 19:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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J Endocrinol (journal)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 12#J Endocrinol (journal)