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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 12, 2016.

American Samoa (U.S. state)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. Deryck C. 17:16, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here are a couple redirects that are misleading. American Samoa is not a U.S. State. Having the redirect might cause someone to think that it is a state, so let's not spread that misinformation. The new tool shows 4 hits in the last 90 days. Also nominating one other redirect for the same reasons. -- Tavix (talk) 00:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm going to vote delete simply based on the fear that these will spread misinformation, though I am also sympathetic to the possibility that a reader who is unfamiliar with the nuances of U.S. political subdivisions may think that these are "states" and then search for these articles based on that false assumption. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sympathetic too, but I think it's implausible that someone would search in that fashion, so it's not something to worry about. -- Tavix (talk) 02:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 20:52, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That was my line of thought, along with because they were created by the same person at the same time. If these were to be deleted, my plan was to go through the rest of them and go from there. District of Columbia (U.S. state) redirects to District of Columbia statehood movement, for example, which seems different enough (to me) to nominate it separately. -- Tavix (talk) 22:01, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as misleading and unlikely search phrases (0.3 daily views and 0.01 daily views on average, respectively). I recognize that the statehood possibilities for these territories are covered in the article 51st state, but anyone typing these page titles will easily find the actual article American Samoa and the redirect U.S. Virgin Islands, respectively, before the nominated pages. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and tag with {{R from incorrect disambiguation}}. Many of our non-American readers—and probably a fair number of American ones—won't be aware of the distinction between US states and territories. Per the comments above, I understand how these seem less likely than for Guam, Puerto Rico, or the NMIs, but I still think the most likely desired topic if someone uses these search terms is the territories themselves. --BDD (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    You're probably right about the lack of awareness of the distinction between a US state and territory, but that is irrelevant in the case of a redirect from a disambiguated title to an undisambiguated one... anyone typing American Samoa (U.S. state) will see the actual article American Samoa long before they finish typing the full name of this redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:33, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
True, but that's not the only way readers find articles. They may follow external links or type URLs directly, for example. Personally, I do direct URLs sometimes, but more often use a Chrome browser plugin to query the search engine. It doesn't give suggestions for autofill. I appreciate the improvements to the MediaWiki search, but we shouldn't assume it's the only way readers will navigate the encyclopedia. --BDD (talk) 14:51, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
People can search in multiple ways, but I think the more relevant question would be if people are actually searching using these terms. It'd be one thing if this was a common occurrence, then I'd agree with you, BDD. However, it boggles my mind why someone would want to keep around blatant error to possibly help someone once every 90 or so days. -- Tavix (talk) 16:38, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Mr. Trump

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to Trump (surname). [Additional comments.] –Davey2010Talk 12:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Same issue as Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 2#Ms. Rodham. Eric Trump, Fred Trump, Frederick Trump..... Bad title for disambiguation. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:49, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trump on The Apprentice was frequently referred to as Mr. Trump, and this is a valid search term. Generally it refers to Donald Trump and not to any of his male relatives. MB298 (talk) 03:50, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Criteria and indicators

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:02, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria and indicators could refer to anything. Redirecting to Sustainable forest management seems to violate the principle of WP:SURPRISE. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:47, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this absolutely could refer to anything. It seems to be a reference to Criteria & Indicators of Sustainable Forest Management. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoudLizard (talk • contribs)
Comment @LoudLizard: I'd agree with you except this redirect was created in 2006! I can't believe it has lasted so long! WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @WikiDan61: I did see that it's very old. I don't understand why it has remained in this state either. LoudLizard (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Zhang Yu'an (television personality)

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:57, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As redundant. Only one person called Zhang Yu'an (张玉安) has him article on this Wikipedia. Dabao qian (talk) 17:09, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Dickebusch Old Military Cemetery 1848255324.jpg

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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted. (non-admin closure) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:52, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This file redirect is currently shadowing an almost identical file (commons:File:Dickebusch Old Military Cemetery 1848255324.jpg) which has higher resolution than the current redirect target. Recommend that the redirect be deleted so that the Commons file displays instead. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:22, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Maintenance chemotherapy

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, since they are no synonyms, and the article on chemotherapy has an internal link to maintenance chemotherapy, which should not redirect to it. RekishiEJ (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Creator of Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was retarget to History of Wikipedia. Thanks everyone (non-admin closure) sst✈ 16:06, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:XY. Can refer to either Jimmy Wales or Larry Sanger. sst✈ 03:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Muslim forces terror in Sarajevo

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:54, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I had nominated the article for CSD. It has no substantial history. An administrator redirected the same to Bosnian war. Chiefly, I view the title of the redirect as going against Wikipedia's WP:NPOV guidelines on article naming. The term Muslim forces deliberately paints a negative shade on overall Muslims, and attempts to reinforce a POV term like terror. To super-emphasise "Muslim forces terror in Sarajevo", while also being grammatically incorrect, would justify the existence of religion based redirects (aka, Christian forces terror in Iraq). Moreover, the actual Bosnian War witnessed "the ethnic cleansing of the Bosniak Muslim and Croat population" (as per the Bosnian War article) rather than vice versa. Requesting deletion of this redirect. Xender Lourdes (talk) 02:22, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. This is not acceptable even as a redirect. WP:RNEUTRAL would normally apply, but it explicitly says that the exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, which is precisely the case here. GregorB (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Redirects are not expected to be always NPOV, but this is just plain unhelpful because the terminology isn't used like this. Who in the media refers to alleged Islamic militants as "Muslim forces terror"? That would be like referring to Wikipedia as "Pedia Wiki Internet" or the U.S. Republican Party as "Party American Republican". CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Turkishpedia

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:45, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such thing, and all the search results from Google are virtually wikipedia mirrors. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 22:10, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Airlineschina

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:44, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search term, I think it is more plausible for Air China than anything else, but delete nevertheless, as Airlines china doesn't exist. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 22:08, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Mac Cory (Another World)

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:43, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A new page was recently created but, rather than creating it with the Mac Cory re-direct already in existence, a new Mac Cory (Another World) page was created. With no other "Mac Cory" pages, however, there's no need to disambiguate (also making it a highly unlikely search term as the much simpler "Mac Cory" is already the page name). The page name has already been corrected and I have already corrected all the pages linking to the incorrect re-direct.Cebr1979 (talk) 03:39, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • User:Cebr1979 Normal practice is to keep it and put {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} on it. There's no reason to delete it that I can see. If there was a huge copyvio or attack page in the page history, I might say to delete it and recreate as a redirect, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 16:27, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Oiyarbepsy is right that there is no compelling need to delete, as it is generally not necessary to update incoming links to a redirect except when those links are from disambiguation pages or templates, or perhaps through the course of normal editing. However, there is also no compelling reason to keep this unhelpful/unnecessary redirect now that it has been nominated and the move history is preserved at the target article (diff). -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:54, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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