Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 20
September 20[edit]
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 20, 2014.
SpongeBong HempPants[edit]
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- SpongeBong HempPants → SpongeBob SquarePants (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Nothing links here and "SpongeBob HempPants" is not mentioned in the article. ... discospinster talk 14:18, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It seems that this is a fan version of the show according to my Google search.--Lenticel (talk) 16:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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GNU/Linux[edit]
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Propose retarget to GNU/Linux_naming_controversy � (talk) 13:01, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Retarget per Ï¿½. The GNU license and Linux are different things. This is the best retarget. Si Trew (talk) 21:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment GNU-Linux . GNU_Linux , Gnu/linux , GNU-linux , etc... should all point to the same article. -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 05:43, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- comment Linux-based GNU system , GNU+Linux and capitalization variants thereof should remain pointed to Linux -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 05:46, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose WP:ASTONISH, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The primary topic and most likely wanted article is that documented at linux, as this is about some form of GNU userland and other stuff atop the linux kernel -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 05:48, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. Hi. If I were the nominator, I'd have definitely tried to add a persuasive reason. But in absence of that, I am left to myself to figure out whether it is appropriate or not. So, I am asking myself the following:
- "What does a person who enters 'GNU/Linux' into Wikipedia is looking for?" I think he either wants to know what is 'GNU/Linux' which he or she has read somewhere or wants to get in-depth information on it.
- "How does it impact existing 'GNU/Linux' links in Wikipedia?" There are 343 inbound links in the article space of Wikipedia that need to be changed.
- Now, is there a reason persuasive enough to counter these issues?
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 14:44, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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List of endorsements in the British unity referendum, 2014[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was Delete; G5. Courcelles 05:36, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- List of endorsements in the British unity referendum, 2014 → List of endorsements in the Scottish independence referendum, 2014 (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
As for British unity referendum, 2014:result of reversion of a POV pushing move. BethNaught (talk) 08:33, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as POV fork, same reasons as below. No RS calls it that. JohnCD (talk) 11:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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Opinion polling for the British unity referendum, 2014[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was Delete; G5. Courcelles 05:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- Opinion polling for the British unity referendum, 2014 → Opinion polling for the Scottish independence referendum, 2014 (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
As for British unity referendum, 2014: this is a POV pushing move. The referendum has not been called this by anybody. BethNaught (talk) 08:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as POV fork, same reasons as below. No RS calls it that. JohnCD (talk) 11:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete'. Nuff said. Si Trew (talk) 11:46, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete'. No merit. Chris55 (talk) 21:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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Musical score[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was keep. All are agreed that this is a sensible redirect as things stand and the issues with the DAB can be resolved by bold editorial action outwith this RFD. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 23:42, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Musical score → Score (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
This is an R to a section of a DAB. Separate the DABS out. Si Trew (talk) 07:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- speedy close - the redirect does not need to be deleted, as it can simply be overwritten with the dab content. If you think this might be controversial, then talk:Score and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation is the place to gain consensus. See WP:SPLIT. Thryduulf (talk) 13:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep and close for the reasons given by User:Thryduulf. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- All right,I'll go with speedy keep and close. The problem is, usually you get very little participation on DAB talk pages, and little more at their targets' pages, so I don't think I could ever achieve consensus. I might steamroller it through, though. Si Trew (talk) 21:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Be bold and just do it. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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British unity referendum, 2014[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was Delete. G5; creation of a DavidYork71 sockpuppet. Courcelles 05:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- British unity referendum, 2014 → Scottish independence referendum, 2014 (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Delete. Obvious POV fork. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- The article should obviously be at Scottish independence referendum, 2014. I've never heard it called a British unity referendum here in Britain. Dbfirs 07:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- If a referendum results in the unity of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, as this has, what otherwise should it be called?BushBandarSting (talk) 07:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- A "British unity referendum" (if there ever were such a thing) would presumably be held throughtout the whole of "Britain", whatever that means at the given point in time, rather than in one constituent nation. You're also missing the point that the referendum was instigated by a pro-independence Scottish Government with the objective of achieving Scottish independence. We don't call the 2011 Alternative Vote referendum the "endorsement of First Past the Post referendum", do we? Jmorrison230582 (talk) 07:38, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)The referendum was on Scottish independence only. Who knows whether the result will improve British unity? If the referendum had been about British unity, then I, as a British citizen, should have had a vote. Please stop pushing your point of view. Dbfirs 07:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Exactly, it was about breaking up the union not establishing one. There was unity in the end but it was the continuation of the existing union since the Scottish leaders failed to get enough support to break the union up. This title is obviously misleading and is the reason that neither of the Quebec sovereignty referendums are called Canadian Unity Referendums.--76.65.42.142 (talk) 07:12, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- If a referendum results in the unity of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, as this has, what otherwise should it be called?BushBandarSting (talk) 07:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Dbfirs 07:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Have not found a single RS calling it a unity referendum. Unjustified POV fork. BethNaught (talk) 07:32, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Redirects don't have to be WP:RS, but "British unity referendum" does seem to be a neologism." Her Majesty called for "unity" in her written statement, but the two terms have thus been agglomerated by a well-known search engine, it seems. Neither she, nor anyone else that I can make out, called it a "British unity referendum". As an English citizen, I didn't get a vote either. Does seem a bit WP:POV. Si Trew (talk) 08:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. WP:NOTNEWS, WP:RECENT, WP:DICDEF and others. Si Trew (talk) 07:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. This is what it is called. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per all above. JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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Russian-Ukrainian War[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. See the discussion and my closing rationales at the related RfDs linked below. If anyone wants to create a disambiguation page at such a title, it can be discussed on its own merits, and taken to AfD if needed. --BDD (talk) 18:11, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Russian-Ukrainian War → 2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Delete as nominator. Alsee (talk) 06:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as likely search term. Stats are in the high single digits or low tens. Si Trew (talk) 08:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Disambiguate there have been several conflicts between Ruthenia/Kievan Rus/Ukraine and Moskovy/Great Rus/Russia. -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 06:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as likely search term or disambiguate. Also see a discussion of a similar redirect with a different dash in the title at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Russian–Ukrainian War. —PC-XT+ 07:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC) —PC-XT+ 00:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Retarget to the Ukrainian-Soviet War of 1917-1921. Outright warfare between Russia and the Ukraine is not occurring at the present time, but the Ukraine and the Russian SFSR essentially fought several years of warfare (much more than what's going on now, and several times the duration) almost a century ago. If you disagree with my contention that it's the primary topic, you at least ought to support disambiguating it, per the IP. Nyttend (talk) 17:59, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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???[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Question mark per WP:ASTONISH. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
- ??? → Three Investigators (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Is there any reason this page redirects to Three Investigators#International Publishing of all things and not, say, Question mark? --Richard Yin (talk) 06:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Retarget to question mark per WP:ASTONISH -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Regarget but not sure where. Interrobang or Irony mark seem equally likely targets. But probably Question mark wins on the whole. Si Trew (talk) 08:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Retarget to question mark per anon.--Lenticel (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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MOHROn[edit]
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What is this meant to mean? (probably some insult (moron) ) etc. That's my guess. - TheChampionMan1234 04:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- @TheChampionMan1234: It's a misspelling of the name of Mongolia in Cyrillic (Монгол), similar to Poccnr for Россия. I have no idea why it exists, though. Perhaps it was once a link from somewhere. Jarble (talk) 05:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. So unlikely someone is going to type that. Mohron and MOHRON do not exist. Si Trew (talk) 06:01, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete the "correct" Volapuk encoding would write the "г" as lowercase "r" not uppercase "R", i.e. MoHron (or maybe MOHrOn). Redirects from Volapuk encoding may or may not be useful, but redirects from typos/misspellings of Volapuk encoding are probably a bridge too far. 61.10.165.33 (talk) 16:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete because of the weird capitalisation, which really makes it implausible. I can see Mohron being a plausible redirect, and maybe MOHRON or MoHron, but not MOHROn. Nyttend (talk) 17:36, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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WİKİPEDİA[edit]
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Impossible to type. - TheChampionMan1234 03:59, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per Champ. Not impossible, but idiotic to attempt it. It's marked as
{{R from alternate capitalization}}
but not{{R from title with diacritics}}
. Maybe also navel-gazing (Wikipedia does not generally refer to Wikipedia, in mainspace). Si Trew (talk) 05:46, 20 September 2014 (UTC)- Whatever this is it isn't inappropriate navelgazing. Wikipedia is a perfectly encyclopaedic subject and so appropriate redirects to it from mainspace are no different to redirects to any other mainspace article. No opinion at the moment about this specific redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, the target is fine, of course. But the redirect is not. For if not, we stop using links and instead reference Wikipedia in Wikipedia articles: which we do not; we link them.Wikipedia proclaims itself not to be a reliable source. Si Trew (talk) 21:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- What on earth does this redirect have to do with referencing? Where appropriate we do link to Wikipedia in articles - see for example Template:Interwiki, Jimmy Wales, Common Era#Internet reaction, History of the Internet (timeline sidebar), Lossless compression#Lossless compression benchmarks, etc. and none of those links, or any of the other redirects to the Wikipedia article have any effect on people referencing Wikipedia in Wikipedia articles (which is acceptable in limited circumstances, e.g. to verify Wikipedia's content or position on something when that is the subject, as it is at Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident for example). Thryduulf (talk) 23:45, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, the target is fine, of course. But the redirect is not. For if not, we stop using links and instead reference Wikipedia in Wikipedia articles: which we do not; we link them.Wikipedia proclaims itself not to be a reliable source. Si Trew (talk) 21:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Whatever this is it isn't inappropriate navelgazing. Wikipedia is a perfectly encyclopaedic subject and so appropriate redirects to it from mainspace are no different to redirects to any other mainspace article. No opinion at the moment about this specific redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- What it has to do is that there is no RS that anyone uses it in this way in any reliable source. Of course "Wikipedia" is referenced in articles, and it can be because "Wikipedia" is referenced in reliable sources. But not "WİKİPEDİA". Unless you can find any. Si Trew (talk) 21:23, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: Nothing of importance links to it, nobody is going to type it out. ... discospinster talk 22:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep quite easy to type by accident if you leave CapsLock on and your system language is Turkish. See Dotted and dotless I#In computing. It gets around 180 views per month, suggesting that a few actual humans (rather than just bots & spiders) make this mistake every day. 61.10.165.33 (talk) 16:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per the IP. This really is getting too many hits for us to assume that it's all bots, and the IP gives a solid explanation; I thought of Turkish as soon as I saw it, but I wouldn't have thought of leaving on the caps lock. Put that together with the obvious lack of alternative targets, and I see no reason to trash or modify it. Nyttend (talk) 17:43, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per IP and Nyttend —PC-XT+ 00:36, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
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亞墨利加[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 22:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Rare/archaic Chinese name for America, see zh:s:瀛寰志略/北亞墨利加米利堅合眾國 - TheChampionMan1234 03:36, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Obscure and no affinity. BTW how does it ever come to using 墨 (mo)? 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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吾父甘地[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 22:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- 吾父甘地 → Gandhi, My Father (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Rarely used alternative Chinese name. - TheChampionMan1234 03:32, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Article title in zh-classical wp and good redirect in zhwp, but movie has no affinity for Chinese. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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孟尼王[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 22:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- 孟尼王 → Sisowath Monivong (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Not a valid name in any language. - TheChampionMan1234 03:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Isolated uses in zhwp and zh-classical wp (Cambodia Commercial Bank) as transcription for a Cambodian road. I don't know whether Cambodia officially uses Chinese in tandem with other languages to sign roads (although 1% population looks thin), but if yes then this might just pass. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Provisional delete. Much of Indochina used Chinese script (e.g. Chữ nôm, used for Viet Namese), so it's possible that Khmer also used it. Aside from that, there's no reason to keep. I'm going to ask at the reference desk, since Khmer language doesn't address the issue, as far as I saw. Nyttend (talk) 17:47, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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愜酷[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 22:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Not related to Japanese. - TheChampionMan1234 03:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--Lenticel (talk) 16:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. By the way it means hip hop instead rapping, as seen in weblio thesaurus and once in zh-classical wp (New York City). 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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斯科特 · 凯恩[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 22:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- 斯科特 · 凯恩 → Scott Cain (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
No affinity for Chinese. - TheChampionMan1234 03:25, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete zhwp has it (zh:斯科特 · 凯恩) as title but true that no affinity with Chinese. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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盧金河[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was Delete as it is not mentioned in the article (even if it is his Chinese name). Ruslik_Zero 20:22, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- 盧金河 → Chamlong Srimuang (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Name isn't mentioned at taraget, and not in a relevant language anyway, by the way, if you're wondering, I'm sorting out Category:Redirects from non-English-language terms - TheChampionMan1234 03:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Champ, if I can offer any help to sort the category, let me know. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete A few uses by some Chinese news outlets in 2008 ([news.sinchew.com.my/topic/node/48020]), but does not look official. Anyway no affinity with Chinese trumps over IMHO. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep "not in a relevant language" is incorrect. He is of Chinese descent, this is his Chinese name as verified by multiple WP:RS [1][2], and scholars have documented the role which his decision to publicise his Chinese name and ethnic background played in his rise to political power [3]. 61.10.165.33 (talk) 01:10, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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芹菜糖苷[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 22:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 October 4
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馬容容[edit]
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Not a valid alternative name in any language, see [4] - TheChampionMan1234 03:12, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yo mama seems an equally likely target, although that is an R to Maternal insult: I note we haven't Paternal insult: dads may be insulted with impunity, I suppose. Si Trew (talk) 12:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, his name in Mandarin is pronounced "ma you you", but this is "ma rong rong". Siuenti (talk) 20:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per Suienti. We haven't rong rong nor the song "Doo rong rong rong", which would seem likelier targets (but not by much). rong is a DAB with several Chinese entries but that doesn't help us here. Si Trew (talk) 21:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The closest connection I can find is in Cantonese, where 友 is yau and 容 is yong, i.e. still very far-fetched. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 15:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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姓名[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was Retarget to East Asian name Lenticel (talk) 02:08, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- 姓名 → Korean name (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
This word is also used in Chinese and Japanese to refer to your full name, (as you can see from wikt:姓名 so it's not necessarily Korean - TheChampionMan1234 03:07, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure about this one. (Saying so explicitly rather than shutting up since my notvote is generally delete in this list of them all.) Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Disambiguate WP:CJKV to the three name articles -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 07:07, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Update retarget to East Asian name per below -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 05:57, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
@SimonTrew and 70.51.46.146: PLEASE CLOSE THE DISCUSSION and retarget this to East Asian name, there doesn't appear to be any problems with that target. I, as the nominator, proposes to withdraw from this discussion. - TheChampionMan1234 10:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- @TheChampionMan1234: I haven't the authority to close it: I am not an admin. But I am not sure this has consensus for your proposed retarget. Si Trew (talk) 12:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- I can agree to the retarget to East Asian name. -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 05:57, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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黃偉強[edit]
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This appears to be the name of a Chinese actor, which clearly isn't related to the target. - TheChampionMan1234 02:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED and discussions [ad nauseam] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help) here about foreign-language redirects. Si Trew (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Really inexplicable connection. No people under close variation of that name is mentioned in the target. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 03:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Simple perusal of the redirect history would suggest that this is supposed to be the Chinese name of Kaskus founder id:Andrew Darwis. 61.10.165.33 (talk) 02:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Redirect from alt-language name of founder to his company could be a valid redirect under normal circumstances, but this name fails WP:V, and the redirect creator was blocked for using numerous sockpuppets to add dubious/incorrect Chinese names to Wikipedia. 61.10.165.33 (talk) 02:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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