Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 June 23

June 23

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 23, 2014.

Template:Element-arch-stub

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 July 5#Template:Element-arch-stub

Συκοφάντης

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Συκοφάντης → Sycophant (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Delete. Sycophants are not especially Greek. Gorobay (talk) 14:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:FORRED: no specific ties. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 14:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there are sycophants who are not Greek, so Greek is not especially affiliated with the topic. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Ιμμορτάλις

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ιμμορτάλις → Immortals (2011 film) (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Delete. The movie is not Greek and the word ιμμορτάλις is not Greek either. Gorobay (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:FORRED. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 14:49, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete English-language film for the English-language market based on Greek mythology, but is not Greek it and of itself. Greek therefore not particularly relevant. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Southern Mexico

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Mexico → Mexico (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Northern Mexico → Geography of Mexico (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Delete both of these. I can't remember where it is, but we have a policy or guideline page suggesting that redirects with possibilities be deleted if their existence is unduly discouraging the creation of an article. Since Western Mexico and Eastern Mexico are established articles, I think that's the case here. Perhaps it would be different if the targets were more obscure, but for example, if you go to Southern Mexico and find that it's been deleted, you know what Mexico is and how to find its article; you don't need this redirect to help you. Nyttend (talk) 11:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RED (WP:R#DELETE criterion 10), which are the pages Nyttend refers to. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 14:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Mathematik

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The result of the discussion was keep. Number 5 7 17:48, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mathematik → Mathematics (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Not German. The ChampionMan 1234 01:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep {{R from typo}} , strip all alt-language tags. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 03:26, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Harmless redirect. The redirect appears to have been created in good faith by @Ciphers: using a tool at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/redirector.php Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:29, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- It is harmful – it violates WP:NOTDICT. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 07:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:FORRED: this is not a plausible typo for English word; it is specifically German word for concept with no specific connection with Germany. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 07:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because we have Mathematic → Mathematics, and this is a plausible phonetic typo of that. --N Y Kevin 01:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Is the fact that many of the world's leading mathematical journals bear German titles (including the word Mathematik) a relevant reason to keep this redirect? הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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0xygen

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 18:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

0xygen → Oxygen (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Fancy, but impossible typo. The ChampionMan 1234 01:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: plausible. 0 is right above o on most QWERTY/QWERTZ keyboards, and I even personally know some people who frequently type "0" instead of "o". — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 07:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep {{R from typo}} -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:44, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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🇨🇳

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 18:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

🇨🇳 → Flag of China (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

I have no idea what language this is, I know its mojibake on my computer, but a Google search returns no results. The ChampionMan 1234 01:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as a valid {{R from Unicode}}. In fact, I have tagged it as such. Steel1943 (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@TheChampionMan1234: By the way, on my screen, this character appears as the Flag of China, same as the redirect target. Steel1943 (talk) 01:44, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It's not a language: it's an emoji code. See the section entitled "Unable to proceed" creating redirection pages for national flag emoji at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive240 for context. Apparently there are emoji codes for numerous national flags, and this is the code for the flag of China. Its appearance varies from computer to computer; mine displays a miniature "CN", rather than mojibake or the flag itself. Nyttend (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyttend: Okay, Chrome displays it as the generic mojibake, like this one:?, but firefox displas it as a miniature CN, like what you said, but my question is now, what is the use for this redirect, I can't possibly think of a use for this. Regards The ChampionMan 1234 03:06, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't responsible for it: you really ought to ask that question of Silas S. Brown, since I got involved purely because admins can override the title blacklist. Any Unicode character ought to be a bluelink; this is why titles such as 🐇 and 🐰 exist, for example. This is a two-character item, but since it's seemingly a single entity, it ought to be included as well. Now that it exists, I see no reason for deletion; it doesn't hurt anything, it unambiguously refers to the flag of China (why would you type this for any other purpose?), and at least on Steel1943's computer, it enables [[🇨🇳]] both to link and to display the flag. Nyttend (talk) 03:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the browser that I'm using that displays the character as the flag is Safari. Steel1943 (talk) 11:44, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Chrome for Mac shows boxes on the page title, but the flag in the URL bar - suggesting that the we maybe should be changing our font to something that is better supported by computers. Ego White Tray (talk) 14:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: ~~one-letter redirects from Unicode codepoints~~ redirects from Unicode units are helpful in Unicode tables, where each cell is linked to the meaning of codepoint. See emoji article for example. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 08:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC) (updated 17:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC))[reply]
Keep. This is not a single Unicode character, but it is typed as a unit. The redirect should remain by the same logic as 🐇. And FYI “mojibake” refers to confusion with encodings; it does not refer to missing glyphs, so there is no mojibake here. Gorobay (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Odd. To me, I see only one character, and that's the flag icon. Steel1943 (talk) 20:49, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This brings up a good point, though. I'm thinking that Category:Redirects from emoji and related {{R from emoji}} may need to be created. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What you see as a single flag is encoded as a sequence of two Regional Indicator Symbols: U+1F1E8 🇨 REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER C and U+1F1F3 🇳 REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER N. Except the flags, the only other emoji encoded as two or more characters are the digits with keycaps. I don’t think a special category and template are required. Gorobay (talk) 01:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Gemmes

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 July 5#Gemmes