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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F4 by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Drew Scott.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Teja-in-white.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Liveartsatnight.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Unclear copyright status. It says: "The use of this file is permitted only on Wikipedia." However, the history also shows various free copyright tags added by the uploader. I don't know whether the Wikipedia-only permission nullifies those free copyright tags. Stefan2 (talk) 10:13, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lubarov FishDay.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Marisa Warrington Small.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Maloyaroslavets Nikolaev Chyornoostrov Convent.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Malone D EG 01.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

This seems to indicate that the file is unfree. Stefan2 (talk) 11:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Miriam Waddington.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept. Website says "The public may copy and use this information without charge, provided that this Notice and any statement of authorship are reproduced on all copies". Diannaa (talk) 21:06, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mondragon Roberto 1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

For Scientific and Technical Information Only © Copyright 2011 Los Alamos National Security, LLC All rights reserved

Is this "scientific or technical information"? Depends on where on the website it comes from, I suppose... --Stefan2 (talk) 18:20, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Moondancephoto.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:NCCARLogo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 22:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Nepal Protest.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Newatlanticlocks.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Newpacificlocks.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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Photos by Marianne F Pettersen

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The result of the discussion was: Photos in this group have been deleted. Diannaa (talk) 21:19, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Norway Oppland Lesja Church by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Kongsvoll by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Norway Notodden Heddel Stav Kirke by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Norway Dovre Snøhetta by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Drivstua railway station by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Domkirke in Stavanger by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Looking at File:Norway Notodden Heddel Stav Kirke by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg and some other files, one could interpret the e-mail to mean that the uploader only has requested permission for Wikipedia, which is unfortunately insufficient. The statement at File:Klukstad altarpiece photo by Marianne F Pettersen.jpg seems to confirm that the permission only is for Wikipedia. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:31, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:NutTreeFuture.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:NutTreeSign.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:OAS Laureano Gómez.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pattycannonhouse.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete - Not Free.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pipe Creek Sinkhole.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
The problem it is not enough to have permission to use it on Wikipedia, or even for legitimate scientific or educational purposes. Wikipedia requires that material be licensed such that it may be used by anyone, for any purpose, including commercial use. Please see WP:COPYREQ for details. —RP88 (talk) 00:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We used the "CopyrightedFreeUseProvided" tag, which should be determinative. I added the additional comment because it was I and not the image creator who uploaded the file. I can delete the comment without violating the intentions of the now-deceased image creator. Would that remedy the problem? -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 22:39, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that the permission is insufficient. A proper permission needs to be obtained from the copyright holder. If the photographer is dead, the permission will have to come from the photographer's heir. It is not possible to remove the extra comment as that would falsify the information about what permission you have. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:46, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm checking the fair use criteria to see if this image qualifies for use in the Pipe Creek Sinkhole article; but I doubt that I can make a case for the fossil turtle image since the article is about the site itself and not about the fauna discovered there. -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 20:42, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please comment on the sufficiency of the following as a non-free use rationale:

Description = This is a low-resolution, medium-distance image of Pipe Creek Sinkhole in Grant County, Indiana, made in 2003 by the late Ed McDonald (1938-2013), an amateur geologist from Auburn, Indiana, who participated in excavating the site. | Source = http://www.angelfire.com/in4/earthpages/pipe_creek.html | Article = Pipe Creek Sinkhole | Portion = Whole of original image. | Low resolution = Yes | Purpose = Visually identifies the paleontological site that is the subject of the article before it was fully excavated. | Replaceability = No free equivalent image available. | Other information = The copyright probably belongs to Ed McDonald's heirs. Using the image here will not affect their rights to control other uses. -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 20:53, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:NFC#UUI §1. The image fails WP:NFCC#1 as someone could go to that location with a camera. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, they can't. The photo is of the site as it appeared ten years ago before most of the paleontological excavation was completed. It's in a commercial limestone quarry and either has been or is in the process of being obliterated now that the scientific work is done. Whatever images exist of the site as it once was belong to universities or private individuals. -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 22:37, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I propose modifying the explanation on "replaceability" to read: "No free equivalent image available. Making a new image is not possible because the appearance of the site has been altered by the paleontological excavation. The sinkhole depression partly remains, but the fossiliferous sediment (the dark-colored material in this image) has been completely removed." -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 15:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:11, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pipe Creek Turtle.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • According to the text on the file information page, the permission only seems to be for a single Wikipedia article. Stefan2 (talk) 13:16, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • What issue specifically needs to be addressed? The creator of this image, Ed McDonald, died in February. He definitely wanted the image used for the Pipe Creek Sinkhole article, and I don't think that he would have objected to its use for any legitimate scientific or educational purpose or in other Wikipedia articles. -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 23:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • We used the "CopyrightedFreeUseProvided" tag, which should be determinative. I added the additional comment because it was I and not the image creator who uploaded the file. I can delete the comment without violating the intentions of the now-deceased image creator. Would that remedy the problem? -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 22:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • The problem is that the permission is insufficient. A proper permission needs to be obtained from the copyright holder. If the photographer is dead, the permission will have to come from the photographer's heir. It is not possible to remove the extra comment as that would falsify the information about what permission you have. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:46, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Radovan-jelasic-1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:RavenClimbout.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:WayneMcMinnville.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: deleted as this cartoon is still under copyright to the Daily Mail. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:40, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ray Casey.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • It says that "This image (or this Media) is copyrighted. The copyright holder allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that you may not claim that you took the photo yourself" but it also says that the image is used under fair dealing provisions in British law, which is contradictory. Stefan2 (talk) 13:41, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. In small print at the bottom of the cartoon it says "Daily Mail Copyright". The term of copyright in the UK is p.m.a+70. Even if the artist died immediately after creating the cartoon, it won't be public domain until 2051. As a derivative work of a copyrighted work, this image is non-free (even if the photographer has released their photograph under a free license). —RP88 (talk) 16:23, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Richard G. Peers, age 16 (painted by Mai Griffin).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Richmond Station Melbourne1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 17:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Santa-xenu.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Shoreline Puskar Lake.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:SHUNTFig1.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sir John Meurig Thomas by David Griffiths.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept for now; the image is now tagged as OTRS pending. Diannaa (talk) 16:03, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Spode Platter Aesop.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

My mistake was to load the file onto Wikimedia Commons. I have reloaded it to English Wikimedia under a different name and will make the appropriate change on the article page. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 19:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't do that! When you upload a duplicate image like this, we will just have to delete the most recent image so that we don't lose the original image history and so that we don't keep multiple copies of it. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Stillwaterpreschurch.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete Not Free.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sunset Line.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete - Not Free  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sudbury Neutrino Observatory.artist concept of detector.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 17:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:EECTF Logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 17:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Château Batailley.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 17:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Dead Cool releases 2013.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • This is an image of cover art. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Certainly is. Photographed by me. With permission from Esben Roos Svendsen, who runs the label. I work on this article to improve it, hoping to get that nominated-for-deletion banner removed asap. This label is important in the punk and garage scene in Fredrikstad, and elsewhere too. Its documentation is very much needed.--Mc peko (talk) 15:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Diannaa (talk) 16:10, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Scottsdale-Stillman Park 20 -Scottdale Model Railroad Club.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

2. In regard to Commons:COM:TOYS. The toys in question do not have a visible trademark and the toys are barely distinguishable themsleves.

Now, this is my opinion. Let's let someone with true knowledge of the subject tell us what is what. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I wrote at User talk:Stefan2#File:Scottsdale-Stillman Park 20 -Scottdale Model Railroad Club.jpg, I don't think that the problem is that the toys are there, but how they are arranged – someone probably owns the copyright to their arrangement. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:09, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I checked with the people there. These are temporary hobby displays, not permanent ones and therefore not copyrighted, plus there are no prohibitions as to photographs and such. I am absolutely sure that there aren't any problems. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:18, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Remains of Ancient Vaishali.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete Magog the Ogre (tc) 18:30, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Clouds.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
So the proposal is only to delete the middle revision? I support that. --99of9 (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: One image was deleted by Magog the Ogre on 29 October; the other is okay to keep as uploader's own work. Diannaa (talk) 16:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gypsum Fantastic - user image.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Deleted both; we don't have enough information about the baseball card to determine its copyright status, and the glasswork image is a derivative work of a copyright artwork, which we don't have permission to display. Diannaa (talk) 16:18, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Klein.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 17:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Meenakshi Vijayakumar, 1st woman fire officer, India.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Two files in one.
  1. Probably copyvio, see http://newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/article1438348.ece (earlier but only shows a part of the photo).
  2. Same uploader and web resolution, so maybe copyvio too. Stefan2 (talk) 23:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Shawn G. Chittle (left) and DJ Grand Wizzard Theodore.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Two files in one.
  1. The file by Loudes13 (talk · contribs) doesn't have a licence.
  2. The file by Flintmichigan (talk · contribs) doesn't have a source. Note that the file uploaded by Bdve (talk · contribs) is the same image. Stefan2 (talk) 23:13, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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