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The result of the discussion was: Kept. Image is PD-US-1923-abroad. -- TLSuda (talk) 00:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Alicewond.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • This is a theatre poster from the original production of this musical in 1886. Since the artwork was published 127 years ago, it is in the public domain in both the UK (where the musical was produced) and in the US. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:35, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Who made the artwork? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:39, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Prove it. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Based on above 'Withdrawn pending updates to file description page.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:42, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The tag wanted is {{PD-US-1923-abroad}} Tim riley (talk) 16:28, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • As this was published in 1886, it is in the public domain in the United States per {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}. This is all that we need to know.
This appears to be the entire poster. Unless the name of the author is inscribed somewhere on it (it is too small to read some of the text), it is reasonable to assume that the author is unknown. As it is from 1886, there is also a fair chance that the author has been dead for at least 70 years (regardless of whether he is unknown or not), although there may be a small number of authors who were active in 1886 and not dead by 1943. In either case, I think that it is safe to assume that this is in the public domain in the United Kingdom. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:51, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Exhaustivly determined - So kept? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:08, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by TLSuda (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Vyvyanwilde.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Photographer of this image from 1895 is unknown so is PD in UK. Use of the image is essential to show Holland at the time of the life-changing events that soon followed the picture being taken. Jack1956 (talk) 11:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The copyright to the book was renewed with the US copyright office. To verify, go to http://www.copyright.gov/records/ and search for RE0000124804 as "registration number". If this was the first time the photograph was published, then I would assume that the photograph is copyrighted in the United States for 95 years since publication (i.e. until the end of 2049) regardless of the copyright status in the United Kingdom, per Commons:Commons:Subsisting copyright. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:18, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, if the author is unknown, then the photograph is protected by copyright in the United Kingdom for 70 years from publication, provided that it was published within 70 years from creation. 1954 was less than 70 years after the photograph was taken, so if it was first published in 1954 and is anonymous, then the copyright expires 70 years after 1954 in the United Kingdom. If you can find the name of the author before that point, then the term shifts to 70 years from the death of the photographer, which may be either longer or shorter. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:20, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:IB&Little.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
UK Does not have corporate copyrights. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The UK most emphatically does. I spent quite a lot of time during my career dealing with it. Tim riley (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously? Which bit of legislation covers this? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn pending confirmation of status.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep:
This is {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} as there is zero creative input in the image. The UK has a different threshold of originality, so the image might be creative there. The 25-year British typographic copyright has obviously expired long ago.
This is {{PD-US-1923-abroad}} as it was published in 1900 which is prior to 1923.
It seems very unlikely that anyone would be attributed for creating something like this, so {{PD-UK-unknown}} can also be assumed. In the worst case, it might be attributed to Richard D'Oyly Carte himself, but he died more than 70 years ago anyway. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:26, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:18, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ibsavoy.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:19, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Scheer.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Catherinebooth.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
Scanned from Catherine Booth: A Sketch by Brigadier Mildred Duff. Published by The Salvation Army Book Department of London, Melbourne and New York in 1890 on the death of Booth in that year. Jack1956 (talk) 08:15, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming 1890 publication in New York, (PD-US-19123) and nom withdrawn.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The source seems to indicate that it was published concurrently in three countries. The source country would then be the country with the shortest term. This is either the United States or Australia, and the copyright has expired in both of those countries anyway. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Ronhjones (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 00:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:David Alan Stevenson.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Ronhjones (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 00:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Thomas James Young.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
He has been dead since 1869 - the photograph has to have been taken before then Gbawden (talk) 06:26, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong person - Article linked says - "Thomas Young (born as Thomas Morrell) VC (28 January 1895 – 15 October 1966)" Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could we have a clarification here? The file information page says 1869, but the Wikipedia article and the linked source say 1966. Also, is this a government photo? If so, check whether it satisfies {{PD-UKGov}}. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. --George Ho (talk) 22:06, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Beaupre Hall3.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • This image is unfree. The author is credited in this image, but the death of this author is unknown. Searching for "C.W. Rutter" from "Wisbech" is not easy, especially in Google. Also, the photo might be copyrighted under URAA. Publication is unknown, as well. George Ho (talk) 02:06, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The author/photographer C W Rutter died in Wisbech (his home town) in June 1929. (84 years ago) His death certificate can be found in Volume 3b Page 614 of the British records of death. The building is described as being a ruin for 'several' decades prior to its 1966 demolition; this would suggest that the photograph was taken no later than 1900. Therefore, this image is in the public domain.
Furthermore, even if this image were deemed to be a depiction of a copyrighted three-dimensional work or building, the subject is is the object of discussion in an article. The building was demolished in 1966; it's not possible to take another photograph - so is still elligable for retention in an educational article and project such as Wikipedia.  Giano  09:36, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn ^ See above Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:03, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Ronhjones (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 00:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:PAKISTAN SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC PARTY.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PSDP/info This group was created by Jamil in August 2003 at Yahoo groups. http://www.acronymattic.com/PSDP.html http://pakistansocialistdemocraticparty.webstarts.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.21.6.26 (talk) 06:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Ronhjones (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 00:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Civic Hall Ballarat.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • This image is after the 1955 cutoff for photos. 1955+50 = 2005

which is after the URAA date. Does Australia have corporate copyrights? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:04, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • The copyright terms for Australia are indicated in the template. Whether some copyrights belong to corporations or not is irrelevant for us as this doesn't seem to affect the term. This was copyrighted in Australia in 1996, so it is copyrighted in the United States per Commons:COM:URAA. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:37, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Change to non-free image. -- TLSuda (talk) 00:34, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:David-railton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • In the United States, unpublished photographs by anonymous photographers are protected for 120 years from publication, whereas unpublished photographs by named photographers are protected for 70 years from publication (see {{PD-US-unpublished}}). This was taken less than 120 years ago, so if you are claiming that it is anonymous, then the US copyright status might be a problem. If you are claiming that it isn't anonymous, then you need to provide a death date, as many people who were alive around 1919 still were alive in 1943.
  • In the United Kingdom, the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 defines unknown as "For the purposes of this Part the identity of an author shall be regarded as unknown if it is not possible for a person to ascertain his identity by reasonable inquiry; but if his identity is once known it shall not subsequently be regarded as unknown." I don't know whether "reasonable inquiry" might require asking David Railton QC whether he knows who the photographer is. If he doesn't know who the photographer is, then I think that it safely can be regarded as unknown authorship. This doesn't affect us as Wikipedia isn't hosted in the United Kingdom.
There is an additional problem in the United Kingdom: If the copyright had expired before it was uploaded to the indicated website in 1918, and it had not previously been published, then it is protected for 25 years in the United Kingdom due to an EU rule. This right belongs to the publisher, regardless of whether he is related to the author in any way. This doesn't affect us as Wikipedia isn't hosted in the European Union. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:R.j.campbell.1903.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Attributed to Rotary, but UK doesn't have corporate copyrights.

When did the photographer die? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:12, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This means that the United Kingdom has corporate copyright (at least since 1988 – I haven't bothered looking for older laws). However, this doesn't affect the copyright term of a work; the term is still based on the year of death of the employee and whether the employee's identity is known. Therefore, I do not know why User:Sfan00 IMG asked whether the United Kingdom has corporate copyright in the first place. Anyway, this is a postcard, and it is dated 1903, so there is a fair chance that it was published before 1923, meaning that {{PD-US-1923-abroad}} applies. Also, unless the photographer's name appears on either side of the postcard, it also seems fair to assume that his identity is "unknown", i.e. {{PD-UK-unknown}}. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:32, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Campbell-driving-c1904.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Campbell-preaching-c1904.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:34, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:R-j-campbell-rotary-1903.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:36, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Great John Ganton 1909.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Attributed to Rotary , but the UK does not have corporate copyrights, Who is the photographer and when did they die? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Photographer unknown therefore PD-UK applies, ie 70 years after publication of image in 1909. Jack1956 (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am reliably informed by Timriley who has spent some time researching this in his capacity as librarian to an academic institution that the UK does have corporate copyrights; for example, the British Government holds corporate copyright. See here for an example of British Gov corporate copyright. Besides which the early date of this pc makes it PD everywhere. Jack1956 (talk) 11:34, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept PD-RO  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:HRH Elizabeth of Romania, HM Queen Marie of Romania, HRH Princess Ileana of Romania, HM Queen Maria of Yugoslavia.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Blackstones Company Broad Street Stamford.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:06, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn licence changed to NFUR NtheP (talk) 21:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Costa Chekrezi.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
Hi. The file is used only for illustrating the article of the person only. The person died in 1958. Won't it qualify as "fair use" as well? So, can we change the license to "Non-free biog-pic"?
No objection to a license change.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I added the "Non-free biog-pic" license on the file page. Should I do anything else? ThanksMondiad (talk) 17:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:John Beresford Leathes 1910.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
Where was the book first published?Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:19, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Frontispiece to The Fats London : Longmans & Co., (1910)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by TLSuda (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Kept.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. -- TLSuda (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Frieda-lawrence-1901.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
Withdrawn - PD-US-1923-abroad.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:27, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by TLSuda (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by TLSuda (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn, mistargeted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by TLSuda (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by TLSuda (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Kept  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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