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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:01, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Quad-Cities.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Copyright not likely to belong to the user unless he's been in space. Lacks real source. Eeekster (talk) 01:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Derivative work of copyrighted statue. Not a work of the Federal Government, and no evidence that statue has been released under a free license or passed into public domain. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:34, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:46, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:47, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:47, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:52, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- user has uploaded magazine covers, collages of CDs, and watermarked images as own work. some of these images are watermarked, some look like promo photos. some might be legit. but i think there's enough question about provenance that we should delete all of them (barring further explanation). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:52, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:INS Chakra (Akula).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Flikr uploader obelix4 site http://www.flickr.com/photos/42955882@N02/with/4000393484/ contains other copyrighted images not the work of the uploader so no reason to believe this is the work of the uploader. MilborneOne (talk) 19:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Keep; file is tagged as non-free.-FASTILY (TALK) 00:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- This image is problematic as it contains images of living people which is not suitable for release under a fair use license. The image has been taken from the Grinder website and if a free release can be given then it can be verified by email to permissions-commons
wikimedia.org (via OTRS) and a fair use rationale will not be required. Fæ (talk) 19:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply] - Note: This image is currently tagged as non-free. If there is a dispute with the rationale, please tag the image with {{dfu}} or list it at WP:Non-free content review. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:01, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I think you're misinterpreting our prohibition on non-free images of living people. It's only when the primary purpose is to show those people. Here, the primary purpose is to show the software; nobody knows or cares who these people are. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:38, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:KariKimmel singing bw2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- F9 was declined but Google shows a hit for this image on Facebook (I was unable to get to the page without applying to be a "friend"). Eeekster (talk) 22:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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