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Toledo Walleye

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I've listed this article for peer review because I have made numerous improvements to the article since its automated review as a stub-class article. I would like to get a consensus on what class article this article would fall under. I would also like recommendations on what would need to be done to improve this article to Good Article and/or A-class article status.

Thanks, Rik (talk) 04:13, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on this interesting article, here are some suggestions for improvement.

• A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - there are several FAs at Category:FA-Class Ice Hockey articles whihc seem like possible model articles.
• There is a toolbox on this PR page which finds one disambiguation link that will need to be fixed.
• The same toolbox finds almost every external link is dead. The ones to newspaper articles do not need to be replaced because the newspaper exists outside the internet and so someone could look up the article at a library that had back issues ofthat paper. I would fix the references to remove or comment out the links. The links to web pages that are dead do need to be fixed in some way.
• Biggest problem I see is a lack of references. This article needs more references, for example the whole Toledo Storm section has no (zero) refs and needs some.
• The first paragraph of the Sale to Toledo Arena Sports section also has no refs and needs at least one. Leaders and Awards and honors sections also have no refs.
• My rule of thumb is that every quote, every statistic, every extraordinary claim and every paragraph needs a ref. See WP:CITE and WP:V
• The lead should be an accessible and inviting overview of the whole article. Nothing important should be in the lead only - since it is a summary, it should all be repeated in the body of the article itself.
• To expand the lead, my rule of thumb is to include every header in the lead in some way. As two examples, the fact that this team just started in 2009 and is a successor to the Storm is not in the lead, but should be. Please see WP:LEAD
• Why is there so much on the first season and nothing on the second season? See WP:WEIGHT
• Much of the Inaugural season section is written as if the season were still in the future, instead of the past. The Walleye will play fifteen of their first twenty-one games at home.[8] Also the description of the playoffs does not mention that they lost 1-3 in the quarterfinals (the season table does).
• The article has three fair use images which seems like too much - please see WP:FAIR USE and especially WP:NFCC
• There are some free photos on Flickr - see this one of their first game ever. Others are here
• Could also inlcude a photo of the outdie of the arena
• Please make sure that the existing text includes no copyright violations, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. For more information on this please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. (This is a general warning given in all peer reviews, in view of previous problems that have risen over copyvios.) SOme of the first season stuff reads like copy and paste from press releases.

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

A bit more

I uploaded File:Toledo Walleye First Game.jpg to Commons as it seemed like the most useful of the free images at Flickr. Please ask on my talk page if you need help uploading more.

• I am not sure that this should be its own article according to the Manual of Style. When a sports franchise changes names or even cities, it just has one article under the current name - see Los Angeles Dodgers for one example. So it may be that this should be merged with the Storm article. I would ask at the WikiProject Hockey talk page. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 13:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)