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China–Ethiopia relations

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I've listed this article for peer review because…I really would like to see if it is at the Good Article, or GA level. I personally think it is, but I really would like feedback as to whether others share that opinion.

Thanks alot, Oakley77 (talk) 00:44, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Comments by A. Parrot

As I'm neither an expert on this subject nor on the GA process, I don't think I can say definitively whether the article is GA ready. I'm fairly sure, though, that it needs more work. The article's information is a bit meager; not knowing how much is available, I can't say whether that just reflects a scarcity of sources.

General comments:

• The sources are mostly news articles of various sorts. They're reliable, but news articles don't provide much analysis of broad patterns and consequences. Finding a source that analyzes the broad nature China–Ethiopia relations would help a great deal. The book by Alden listed in the bottom section (I changed the section's name to "Further reading", as the book isn't an external link) may provide some of that analysis. Other such sources may be out there, or they may not.
  • Yes, this would be ideal, but I have extensively checked, and I don't see any. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• It seems odd that the article's title is "China–Ethiopia relations" and then the bolded text in the lead sentence and over the infobox is "Ethiopia–People's Republic of China relations". The changing names for China might have something to do with the interminable PRC-versus-Taiwan issue, but I still think it would be better to be consistent. Putting China first in one case and Ethiopia first in the other makes no sense.
  • Done. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Speaking of Taiwan: the article says Ethiopia's deputy foreign minister expressed support for the One-China policy in 2001, but there's no other indication of where Ethiopia stands on the Taiwan issue. I presume that any interactions between Taiwan and Ethiopia aren't enough to merit their own Wikipedia article, but is there any kind of diplomatic contact, or does Ethiopia ignore Taiwan to please China?
  • Its like Taiwan doesn't even exist. They are in completely incommunicado with Taiwan. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• The article focuses on economic relations, which makes sense, given that they're the most important element in the relationship. But it seems to be missing some things, like the reasons why China is so eager to invest in Ethiopia (the Dominican University of California article looks like it should help with that). The article by Edward Cody includes a factoid near the top, saying that China was Ethiopia's biggest trading partner in 2006; is that still the case?
  • I believe so. China continues their construction projects and infrastructure support, so I believe so. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Are there any major political issues involving China and Ethiopia, or is virtually all their interaction economic?
  • No, not anything really huge, or I would include it. That is, minus the Taiwan issue. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• A link somewhere to Chinese people in Ethiopia is needed. The subject might even justify its own section, depending how much information is out there. And what information is there on Ethiopians in China?
  • Phew, not much. It really is not something deserving of its own article on Wikipedia, not yet at least. And I mentioned your requested article in the See Also section. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Smaller issues:

• The colors of the two countries in the infobox map should be changed to match the green and orange color scheme given immediately below, as with, for example, China–India relations.
  • Has been done. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• The "History" section goes a long way back, but it left me wondering something. Zheng He passed near Ethiopia on his voyages; is there any evidence of contact between the two nations at that time?
  • Information about his journey is pretty sketchy, so I don't believe anything is recorded. Oakley77 (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Why did China refuse to recognize the Italian occupation of Ethiopia in the 1930s, and why did it support the Eritrean People's Liberation Front in the 1960s? I can guess, but these motivations are worth including in the article.

• I added a link for double taxation in the "Official contacts and treaties" section, but more detail is needed on what type of double taxation the agreement dealt with (personal income, corporate taxes, whatever). The link that supports the statement is dead.

• The article by Edward Cody, from 2007, is credited to the Seattle Times Company and present on its website, but Cody was working for the Washington Post, and the Times version of the article includes "material from the Associated Press". I'm not sure how these copied news articles are supposed to be cited on WP.

• A whole section about the Abole incident seems a bit disproportionate, though there's no other place for the incident in the article's current structure. I wonder if the incident is part of any larger issues in China–Ethiopia relations.

—A. Parrot (talk) 02:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)