Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Wikiproject Koch

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The result of the discussion was SNOW-deleted: Obvious result is obvious. Drmies (talk) 16:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikiproject Koch[edit]

Ignoring the concerns over User:VeritasVincitUSA, we have WP:OBAMA and WP:HRC and other projects, so this could possibly be a proper project. But every article in the project is subject to ARBCOM sanctions (along with BLP issues) and so I really wonder if this is the best way people think these articles can be handled, with a centralized discussion point. Ricky81682 (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If there is something worth doing here it will be acheived by TNTing everything and starting over at a later date. Brustopher (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Meh - I see the user who created the Wikiproject has been indeffed, so I have no objection to deleting it. I think it could be a viable project for centralizing some of the tedious Koch-related discussions, but I'm not inclined to nurture it myself. - Mr X 23:16, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I think we're better off ring fencing all these discussions into a chaotic but unruly 2016 elections WikiProject but that's not going to be helpful long-term either. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a Wikiproject isn't really going to solve much. - Mr X 00:38, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I may be mistaken, but I'm not aware of any other WikiProject which is pointedly aimed at a single corporate subject. While it may well be true that the articles related to Koch may be unbalanced or biased one way or the other, having a WikiProject about a subject that narrow seems to me to be a recipe for disaster in terms of our institutional neutrality. BMK (talk) 00:30, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The companies projects has task forces but those are by subject. That's why I brought up Obama and Clinton as I imagine the political projects are more on point. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm ... I'm not sure the Obama and Clinton projects are proper either. BMK (talk) 02:00, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A project "to correct and restore NPOV to articles relating to Koch Industries, its executives, and its affiliates" should not be needed—the place to discuss NPOV problems is WP:NPOVN with escalation to WP:ANI if policies are being violated and WP:DR has failed. A project focussing on a single corporate entity would be likely to lead to WP:UNDUE and other problems. I haven't seen the Clinton or Obama projects and don't know if they are as dubious as they sound, but per WP:OSE they are not relevant here. Johnuniq (talk) 03:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. New, no supporting editors in good standing, and feels motivated as promotion. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:33, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Whatever the merits may be of a task force dedicated to ensuring balance in articles related to climate change denialism and corporate influence on the American political right, I see no reason why this would be restricted tot he narrow scope of Koch Industries. Guy (Help!) 10:23, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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