Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Iich1960/Userboxes/Novorossiya
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 14:25, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
User:Iich1960/Userboxes/Novorossiya[edit]
“Novorossiya” was a short-lived confederation of two authoritarian Russian puppet states in what is internationally recognized as Ukrainian territory with very poor human rights records that are now the frontlines of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. Could be construed as a an irredentist/pro-invasion/pro-authoritarian/pro-terrorist box. Dronebogus (talk) 13:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Keep: Seems fine imo. The box is careful in its wording, in that it supports the self-determination of the state, rather than saying the part is an integral part of Russia (i.e. irredentism). And looking at its few uses, it seems to not be being misused. Curbon7 (talk) 14:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Other options. Curbon7 (talk) 04:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete "Novorossiya" was a Russian puppet state. Supporting the "self-determination" of such product, considering the present times, carries some dirty connotations in my opinion. And there's alternatives using less loaded language, see Template:User Donetsk and Luhansk independence. Super Ψ Dro 12:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. The userbox is implying oppression of Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine, and promoting Russian irredentism. Also, as Super Dromaeosaurus pointed out, there are some less inflammatory alternatives to this, like Template:User Donetsk and Luhansk independence (which I myself created by using User:Skybon/Userboxes/Abkhazia and South Ossetia independence as a model). —Sundostund (talk) 13:08, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Aren’t Donetsk and Luhansk basically puppet states as well? Dronebogus (talk) 05:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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