Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Gp75motorsports/Wikipedia Users' Alliance (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:58, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gp75motorsports/Wikipedia Users' Alliance[edit]

Archival non-encyclopedic information stored in userspace. Avruch ^Talk 05:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI - This was previously deleted per MfD, also noted at the time that it could also have been deleted per CSD U1. Avruch ^Talk 05:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm confused. Why was this not deleted after the first time? GlassCobra 06:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It was deleted (check the deletion log) but the user recreated it with this "memorial" to the project. Hut 8.5 11:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Yeah, it was deleted. I restarted the page, not the project, as a warning to others not to start a beauracracy. --Gp75motorsports (talk) 14:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it seems reasonable to keep a record of a rejected project. DGG (talk) 17:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was previously the subject of a consensus to delete from userspace... You disagree with that consensus? Avruch ^Talk 17:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't a project, either. --Core desat 12:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - Judging from the previous MfD discussion, this is not the item that was deleted--Gp75motorsports has set it up as a warning and maintained a neutral point of view in doing so. Although it does no harm as is, I would suggest to Gp75motorsports that a proper essay would serve the same purpose and free him from worrying about NPOV/accuracy/content disputes/vandalism/etc. down the road. --jonny-m t 04:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Good heavens -- the "project" itself was deleted as being too bureaucratic, and this memorial only heightens the problem by maintaining a list of "Presidents" of the project, each of whom served for a day. The memorial encourages bureaucracy, too, and the editor creating doesn't seem to have understood the underlying objection to the original project. If he had, he wouldn't have made this. Xoloz (talk) 14:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete I don't know why this absolutely has to be deleted as the memorial page is basically harmless, but I'm not sure if the page has any point. I mean, the MfD probably tells a whole lot about why this group was disbanded and the page was gone. Plus, it's not exactly an informative page (Could be summed up "the group was disbanded because it was bureaucratic" and that's that). Obligatory Unwarranted Stupid Goodhearted Spelling Flame with Apologies in Advance: Never a good idea if I don't know I'm supposed to correct "Du-jure President" to "President de jure" or "President du jour" =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 17:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per above, there's no harm in creating a page if the it tells how the project was shut down. It serves to strengthen the point of Wikipedia:Esperanza, helping point new project founders in the right direction by telling a story with a moral. Sure, there are a few minute things on the page which need to be corrected a/o clarified, but that's no reason to delete it. --Gp75motorsports (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This can hardly be called a project, it was a five-day stint by a gaggle of newbies. On top of that, the page is filled with bitey nonsense, like "If you are thinking of doing the same thing, then let the fate of this group tell you what the fate of yours shall be." GlassCobra 08:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this wasn't a project and there's no historical value or point in keeping this around (the MFD speaks for itself). I agree with Xoloz that this "memorial" encourages bureaucracy, which doesn't quite belong here. --Core desat 12:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the project itself was tiny (3 members?) and having a permanent memorial for it is both unnecessary and bureaucratic. Hut 8.5 17:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete per Xoloz and Coredesat. Just delete it (again) and be done with it, once and for all. Daniel 02:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.