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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: replace with explanation; if you do not mind Graham87, I will kindly take you up on that offer of writing (and implementing) such a solution. (non-admin closure) — Godsy (TALKCONT) 01:02, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Principality of Sealand/Principality of Sealand (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Zoozaz1 talk 11:38, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

originally nominated for speedy deletion by @DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered with the reason "Some kind of development copy under the article Talk page which was merged into the real article more than a decade ago." FASTILY 23:05, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per my original speedy. It is not the article – it is an ancient development copy under the Talk page and I can see literally no value in its continued existence. I only stumbled over it because of a spelling check. Have a look at its edit history! It's all there. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Blimey. See below ...[reply]
  • Replace with explanation as kindly offered by Graham87 below. My revised bid having read Graham's comments and having had a quick and horrified look at the 2004 discussion. I am kind of wishing I had not noticed this ... DBaK (talk) 12:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Talk:Principality of Sealand or replace with explanation (which I could write), just because I hate to see significant edit history go to waste. That fork of this article was discussed in 2004 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Principality of Sealand. I don't think any of it was merged in anywhere, but I don't think deleting the page history would do any good here. Graham87 09:46, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as an apparent content fork. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:11, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep (and explain) (per Graham87). Possibly turn into a talk page archive page? This is mostly talk, and we don't usually delete talk pages without good reason. I think looong ago (mid 2000s?) there was some incentive to use this kind of talk page subpages to discuss and try out improvements (anyone knows of some old WP page saying so?). Maybe this is one of those attempts? - Nabla (talk) 19:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment How is it mostly talk? It is not. Per Robert, it is a content fork. It's all there in the history and you can see the ancient 2004 discussions about how it got forked and reunited and G*d knows what else. Please see Graham's explanation and link. I have come round to the view that it should be replaced with an explanation so that the history is not lost, but I cannot see the argument for keeping its actual content, which is I think without value. Otherwise why don't we just keep full copies of every stage of everything, everywhere? DBaK (talk) 22:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh... I got it wrong, it looked like a series of short talk sections discussing each item. It is not. My mistake. So, (or) delete if there is no edit history to keep (working on a dfraft is probably editing, even if did not got to the 'final' version, I don't know.). And we do keep everything, only not everything on plain sight :-) - Nabla (talk) 17:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Zoozaz1 talk 11:38, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.