Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:National Hockey League

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:National Hockey League

Redundant semi-automated Portal(s). Portal:National Hockey League has Portal:Ice hockey. See also: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Major League Baseball. I am currently salvaging the sports portals. Once it's finished I will have a bulk nomination. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:28, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete just a fork of Template:National Hockey League which is the driver for this page. Legacypac (talk) 17:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose as nominated~~. This one is actually built off two pages: Template:NHL and the article National Hockey League. That is why it was not included in my group nomination at WP:Miscellany for deletion/17 single-navbox automated portals.

~~@MJL:: please fix your methodology before you make any further nominations. You have misunderstood how this portal is built, and a bulk nomination based on similar misconceptions would be disruptive.~~ --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:58, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BrownHairedGirl: My nomination was more-so based on the "sufficient interest" criterion that comes with redundancy. Robert McClenon made a somewhat similar arguement at the aforementioned MLB MfD. Also, by bulk, I mean like 3-5 portals. Many of the sports related portals have little to know maintenance and are on pretty niche topics. I think a good example would be Portal:American football vs Portal:National Football League. Together they have enough content to make a decent portal on American football as a sport, but that requires a bit preliminary review. Of the sports portals, this one has nothing I couldn't already theoretically merge with Portal:Ice hockey. I only plan on nominating a bunch of similar situation portals once I finished the resorting and correcting them all. I can send you the list of portals before I actually make the nomination. Would that be less disruptive? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, @MJL. I misread @Legacypac's comment as a part of the nomination. My comment should have been directed at Legacypac, who again misrepresented the nature of a portal. (It's the same issue as Legacypac's completely false nomination at MFD:Portal:Indian cuisine, which reanin uncorrected).

I have struck the misdirected comments. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BrownHairedGirl: No worries! Glad that it got sorted out, :D –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:43, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Redundant to a broader topic portal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:41, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment To clarify the code says "Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow | paragraphs=1-2 | files=1 | more= Template:NHL National Hockey League which I'm learning means it pulls from the template and the head article links. I'm also learning that the inclusion of an article in the code means that any wikilink added to the article by any random passing user can trigger the portal to pull in the now wikilinked article. So if someone links a word like newspaper that article can automatically become a featured article on the NHL portal. Watchlisting the NHL portal will not catch this change, you would need to watchlist the referenced articles and revert reasonable wikilink changes that break the portal. The person adding the wikilink has no idea they are impacting the portal, nor should they care, because the portal is inappropriately riding on the article links. The same applies to any template used to call articles for the portal/ Legacypac (talk) 18:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Legacypac, the code actually reads {{Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow | paragraphs=1-2 | files=1 | more= | Template:NHL | National Hockey League}}. Those "|" separators are important.

However, the links are not harvested as you describe.

Template:Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow uses Module:Excerpt slideshow, where the function getLinkedTitles in listitem mode harvests links only from actual list items, as follows: listitem: first wikilink on a line beginning *, :#, etc. except in "See also" or later section (It skips the "see also" section).

So there is an attack vector, but it's much narrower than you suggest. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:18, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Yet another portal plague portal by the portal platoon created without consideration of whether a portal is in order, and, as BrownHairedGirl notes, portals do not add content. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Another portal that bypassed the WP:Portals for Discussion process. Maybe a process is needed that will both approve portals and provide XFD for them. But no, ... [supply your own handwave]. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:42, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Automated portal, 0 subpages, created 2018-11-12 02:56:46 by User:AmericanAir88, to be deleted: Portal:National Hockey League. Pldx1 (talk) 11:25, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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