Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Macaronesia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:01, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Macaronesia

Portal:Macaronesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

10-year-old abandoned draft portal on the Macaronesia collection of archipelagos: Azores, Madeira, the Canary Islands, and Cape Verde ... which looks to me like it is effectively a narrow topic.

It's an odd collection for a portal. Macaronesia is not a political grouping, and never has been. Unlike the Pacific Micronesia, these 4 archipelagoes are each closer to either Europe or to Africa than to each other, and the collective grouping seems to be notable mostly as a distinct biogeographical region.

So it's not surprising that the head article Macaronesia languishes as a star-class article, with a median of only 279 pageviews per day in Jan–Feb 2019, compared with an average of 2,410 views/day for Madeira and 4,050 per day for the Canary Islands.

Unsurprisingly, the portal for this unloved topic got an average of only 1 pageview per day in Jan–Feb 2019. That's only 1/12th of the median 12 views per day for all portals, and barely above the background noise of hits generated by editors, webcrawlers and bots.

I suppose that it would be possible to argue that this is a broad topic, which could cover everything related to the 4 archipelagos. But that seems a bit dodgy to me, because it would be grouping the politics, culture, people, buildings etc of a biogeographical region. "Politics by ecozone" , "Culture by ecozone" etc seems to me to be a misconstrued set of groupings ... and the alternative of restricting this simply to the "Biogeography of Macaronesia" would indeed by a narrow topic.

In any case, this is is just an abandoned draft. It was created in April 2009‎ by Wiki User 68 (talk · contribs), who hasn't edited since 2010. The portal page itself has been edited since then only for formatting tweaks by the editors who routinely update portal formatting, without and changes to the content.

The subpages listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Macaronesia are similarly abandoned: one Selected article, one Selected picture, one Selected panorama, and intro page ... all barely tweaked since their creation in 2009. With no list of topics and no choice of selected articles or even images, this isn't a portal; it's just a small one-page leaflet.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted, with prejudice against re-creation. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:28, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

• Delete :
  • • Disagreeing with BHG only as to prejudice. I favor deletion without prejudice to re-creation under new rules.
    • The fact that the creator of this portal never made a non-minor edit, including in creating this portal, is not an argument for deletion, but it is an argument as to why they were not here to maintain the encyclopedia.
    • Ill-born heritage portal abandoned by its non-creator. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:51, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
• Delete As the proposer notes, "Macronesia" is only a relevant unit in relation to biogeography, more specifically it's a plant distribution unit in the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions (as used, e.g., in Category:Flora of Macaronesia). It's not a suitable topic for a portal: politically and in terms of proximity it's divided between different countries and continents. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
• Delete - Insufficient identity as a general topic, 12 subpages, created 2009-04-17 20:28:21 by User:Wiki User 68. ONE article. Portal:Macaronesia. : Bhunacat10 (talk), 08:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.