Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Java (programming language)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Java (programming language)[edit]

We have had some pretty terrible computing portals, but this one may be among the worst designed portals ever.

The 10 selected articles were created in October– December 2009 as unabridged, unattributed copies of their articles. Selected article/6 is about the literal island of Java. Selected article/3 would have been about the entire history of coffee production in Indonesia had an editor not replaced the article with something more appropriate. This nine-year-old edit was the only update any of these pages ever got.

Featured Articles lists one de-listed Featured article and four de-listed Good articles.

Selected biography/3 does not link to its article.

Selected quote/6 mocks a supposed quote by Al Gore that has nothing to do with Java. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 12:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the nom. This portal has been abandoned for nearly a decade, save some one-off updates by passing editors, and is 10 articles short of POG's minimum of 20. Since late 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Alainr345, a semi-retired editor (with only one edit in 2019) who hasn't updated it since May 2010 and last touched portal space the same month. It clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers. This portal has had nearly a decade of no steady maintainers and it had a low 41 views per day from January 1 to June 30 2019 (while the head article Java (programming language) had 4,574 views per day in the same period).

POG also states portals should be associated with a wikiproject, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Java is inactive (the last editor to editor conversation was a March 2014 question and a July 2015 answer), and the portal was last mentioned on the portal, in passing no less, (excluding an MfD notice) in Dec. 2009. Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as nearly a decade of hard evidence shows Java (programming language) is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:11, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Computer programming), without creating duplicate entries. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Computing Portals[edit]

Title	Portal Page Views	Article Page Views	Percent	Comments	Articles	Notes	Baseline	Deleted	Type
Java (programming language)	41	4574	0.90%	Originator edits sporadically.	15	History of renaming.	Jan19-Jun19	FALSE	Technology
Computer science	109	3339	3.26%	Last maintenance was 2014. Jun-Jul19 portal views was 116, article views was 2653.	9		Jan19-Jun19	FALSE	Science

Delete as per critiques by User:Mark Schierbecker and User:Newshunter12. Too few articles, poorly selected and sometimes irrelevant articles, unmaintained articles. There is no short-term reason to expect that a re-creation of this portal will address the problems. Any proposed re-creation of this portal using a more modern design, and taking into account the failures of many portals, and including a maintenance plan (since lack of maintenance is a problem with most portals), can go to Deletion Review. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:11, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my bundled nom of this portal five months ago :-P – Levivich 04:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, and oppose re-creation. Low readership + no maintenance = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.