Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Electronic music
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- Portal:Electronic music (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Mini-portal abandoned since 2007. It offers no added value to readers.
Created[1] in August 2006 by MTN~enwiki (talk · contribs), whose last edit was in 2013.
There is no selection of topics, and the list of sub-pages at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Electronic music shows few pages:
- Portal:Electronic music/Selected biography, same topic (Kraftwerk) since creation in 2006[2]
- Portal:Electronic music/Selected picture, same picture (File:Stockhausen 1994 WDR.jpg) since 2011[3]
- Portal:Electronic music/Electronic music news which since is creation in 2006[4] has just been a link https://news.google.com/news?q=%22electronic+music%22 ... which is s a breacj of WP:ELNO
- Portal:Electronic music/Selected article, which has displayed the same article(Techno) since 2007[5]
- Portal:Electronic music/Featured articles, same list of 5 articles since 2007[6], even though Category:FA-Class electronic music articles contains 23 articles
Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Electronic music and its navboxes {{Electronic music}}, {{Electronica}}.
Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the head article offers most of the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incongnito window" (Chrome).
- mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it on head article Time and its navboxes.
- automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it on Electronic music, via this link: Electronic music#/media/File:Telharmonium_-_Scientific_American_1907_(zoomed_400%,_brightened).jpg.
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Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
WP:POG#How_often_to_update? says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 140 consecutive updates, and it is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft.
Yes, this is in theory a broad topic. Wikipedia has extensive coverage of topics related to electronic music, but this portal does nothing to help readers sample or navigate it. But WP:POG guides that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers", and this has not attracted maintainers.
So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:25, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I don't consider this a broad subject area in itself, but I think that BHG may be making that concession pro argumento anyway. This is a yet another unmainatained heritage portal, with 20 daily pageviews, as opposed to 1275 daily pageviews for the head article. The portal has just been sitting here doing nothing for years. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 15 subpages, created 2006-08-05 06:59:43 by User:MTN~enwiki. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Electronic music. Pldx1 (talk) 09:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: abandoned portals don't fulfil the stated purpose of portals. SITH (talk) 11:57, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.