Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Celts

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:03, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Celts

Portal:Celts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

All the subpages of its former title, as listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Celtic Studies:

Abandoned manual portal, converted into an automated pseudo-portal. Currently a WP:REDUNDANTFORK of a single navbox; no manual version worth reverting to.

The current version draws its article list solely from the navbox {{Celts}}, of which it is a WP:REDUNDANTFORK. (For a full explanation of why this type of portal is redundant, see the wto mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals).

This portal was created in 2008 as Portal:Celts by EuroCelticInstitute (talk · contribs), who made a total of 80 edits in 3 months, and has not edited since September 2008. Their edits were almost entirely to this portal, and to the deleted WP:WikiProject Celtopedia.

Immediately after creations, it was moved to Portal:Celtic Studies. There were a few minor edits in 2015 and 2018, but so far I can tell, no substantive changes until a bout of tweaks from July 2018 onwards by @The Transhumanist, who coverted[1] it to automated portal in November 2018‎, and also did a series of page moves which eventually brought it back to its original title Portal:Celts.

Those page moves make it impossible to view a working manual version, because the last manual version[2] is full of redlinks to non-existent subpages. However Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Celtic Studies shows only 3 numbered selected article pages, and Portal:Celtic Studies/Selected articles lists only 3 articles, so I assume that was the scope: Celts, Ireland and Irish people.

That's an abysmally narrow selection, and the WP:REDUNDANTFORK automated version is significantly better, so I see nothing worth keeping.

The head article is a Level-4 vital article, i.e. it is in the 1,001–10,000 range of priority topics, which seems to me to be a marginal set. As of now there are about 1,600 portals, of which over 200 are being discussed at MFD, leaving less than 1,400 whose existence is undisputed. So it seems to me to be unlikely that community has the resources to extend portals far (if at all) into VA-4 topics ... but that's a matter to be settled at RFC.

So I propose that these pages be deleted without prejudice to recreating a curated portal not based on a single navbox or other page, in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

• Delete. I think this might be possibly be a viable topic, but an abandoned portal with 3 articles and an image is not useful. Thanks to BrownHairedGirl for providing the content links and explaining the history clearly. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:54, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
• Delete:
  • • This portal appears to have been created eleven years ago by an institutional account that is inactive and isnt maintaining the portal.
    • I think that the categorization of Vital Articles is nonsense, but that opinion is worth what you paid for it.
    • Without prejudice to another version.
    • I will defer to the analysis of another Celt. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.