Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Bush League Fantasy Football

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:38, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Bush League Fantasy Football

How can we enforce NOT A WEB HOST unless we remove pages like this as soon as they are entered? DGG ( talk ) 00:29, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete For obvious reasons, zero chance of notability, and multiple violations of WP:NOT and would forward this as an obvious case of WP:SNOW. Can we not just WP:IGNORE all rules and G6 this? Sulfurboy (talk) 00:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fully agree with DGG. --Bduke (talk) 01:17, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete now that we are here. Not G6, IAR is not a reason to break rules, and IAR deletions should be reserved for only serious things, which does not include this. --SmokeyJoe (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree about not using G6 for things like this. I think I can find a speedy rule for autobiographies, without any possible ncyclopedic use, but it will be more difficult to find a speedy rule for material like this. DGG ( talk ) 05:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DGG, I don't know why you think this one has an imperative for speedy deletion. It has ghits. Would the speedy criteria devolve to things with the word "fantasy"? That would be troublesome, I am sure. DraftSpace is NOINDEXed, which makes it not particularly amendable for NOTWEBHOSTing. Do you have evidence of it being used for an offsite purpose? Objective evidence of actual abuse by WEBHOSTING might be a nice criterion for speedy deletion. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding A11 to draftspace would take care of this sort of thing. I've never understood why stuff that would be A11'd in mainspace and U5'd in userspace is considered okay if it's posted as a draft. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 09:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that A11 would apply, ghits show that it is an ongoing thing, not made up in one day. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The ghits are from league.fantasy.nfl.com, which appears to be a webhost for people's fantasy football leagues, and Reddit. Anyone can make a reddit or blogspot post about some made up stuff, and it'll show up on Google, but that doesn't mean it's not made up. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 11:13, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 09:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - MFD is the place for things that need to be deleted and almost fit a CSD category. Almost fits for CSD commonly go to DRV and get listed at XFD. We are here at XFD, so don't try to speedy this and have it get sent back here. We could Userfy this, and then it would be U5, which would be stupidly complicated and just illustrates that it needs deleting here. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:51, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
SmokeyJoe, I 'm listing examples of what I find in the hope that the others who work with these drafts will help develop a criterion. Anything that looks like it might be covert abusive BLP I already use speedy for : e.g. Jane is the most beautiful girl in the 7th grade. , or Mr. Mark is an 8th grade math teacher; he drives an old car". I will typically call it test page, not vandalism, in order not to draw attention to it and DENY recognition. I suppose that's technically a use of IAR, justified as DO NO HARM. DGG ( talk ) 10:17, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clear web host violation. -- Whpq (talk) 00:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Whpq, is it clear enough to be speediable? DGG, I see this as a mere pedestrian NOTWEBHOST. I don’t think it threatens much harm, harm that needs to be balanced against false positives in deleting things that look like this. The existence of ghits, albeit non-reliable sources, is a complication. Could a good faith viable draft be started, citing poor sources, and find itself caught? I think possible ways forward are to extend U5 to draftspace, and to use BLPDELETE more liberally in draftspace (I think BLPDELETE generally should be separated from G10). —SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I assume that you are asking about a hypothetical extension of U5 into draft space. I would say yes, this would be something that would qualify. They are putting up a site for the history of their own fantasy league. The ghits are a red herring. The term "bush league" as an amateurish organisation is a choice that I would expect many to have chosen for naming their fantasy sports league and so the fact that there are ghist is not surprising and none of the hots look to be this particular league anyways. -- Whpq (talk) 11:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 14:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.