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July 8

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Problem with templates

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I've recently been adding templates to my user and talk page for various reasons. For some reason, the background color of some templates want to change the background color of others. An example of the problem can be seen at my user page after removing some or all of the <br>s that I had to put in there to stop them. Another example can be seen at my talk page where, on a less durastic scale than on my user page, the {{caution}} template I use is the same color as the {{Archive box}} template I use right below it. It seems like the color of the template below another template affects the template above it, if that makes sense.
You have my permission to go to my user page, remove any or all of the <br>s that you see there (the ones all in a row in Edit source) and click Show preview to see what I mean. -- Gestrid (talk) 02:48, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: Actually, instead of going through all the trouble of doing that Show preview stuff, I created two diffs just for you. One shows what happens when I remove some (roughly half, in this case) of the <br>s, and the other shows what happens when I remove all of them. -- Gestrid (talk) 02:59, 8 July 2016 (UTC) ]][reply]

@Gestrid: The TWA badges are floating content so other elements may try to occupy space around them. The background color is made by {{User unified login}}. You can solve the problem by placing {{clear}} after the badges. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:52, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting drafts

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A new user has created a number of draft pages that are a copy of existing pages viz Draft:USS MAHAN vs USS Mahan (DDG-72). Can I MfD a draft like this? or any draft for that matter? Gbawden (talk) 07:44, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Gbawden: WP:MFD is indeed the correct venue for drafts. WP:A10 does not apply to drafts (but I guess you already knew it).
Considering the discussion I saw on Wikipedia_talk:Drafts#Expanding_U5_to_draftspace.3F I guess you should nominate it at WP:MFD, but I am not aware of very specific criteria for keeping or deleting in that case. It could somehow fall under the "no hope to get to mainspace ever" considering there is already an article. In short, the best is to have a go at MfD, even if it eventually gets kept. TigraanClick here to contact me 08:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Gbawden, Tigraan: Where pages are copies of existing Wikipedia articles (rather than duplicate topics with different text), they are technical copyright violations and thus subject to CSD G12 (and of course the spirit of A10 by way of WP:IAR). I see no reason your time should be wasted taking pages like that to MfD (which inevitably causes others to expend time, commenting and closing). Such pages are unambiguous copyright violations because they copy Wikipedia content without compliance with the GFDL and CC BY-SA 3.0's mandatory attribution requirements. See generally Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Normally, when pages violate COPYWITHIN – such as translations from other language Wikipedia's without attribution; merges without attribution; and just everyday borrowing from one article into another – we fix the issue with a copyright attribution summary using a dummy edit, sometimes coupled with a notice on the talk page (e.g. {{Copied}}; {{Translated page}}; or {{Merged-to}} etc.). Here, though, these duplicate page serve no seeming legitimate purpose and they are copyright violations. To tag these, I would not use {{db-G12}} but {{db|reason}}. If they are declined, you can always then take them to MfD. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:41, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That is a creative way to handle the issue in that exact case. The bottom question (what to do with duplicating drafts) can easily be dodged though (by putting attribution in the edit summary).
About A10-ing them, I think that would be an abuse of WP:IAR. CSD are supposed to be strict because there is little overview of speedy deletions. As I see it, there are two kinds of CSD: the "urgent action needed" (hoaxes, copyvios, attack pages) and the "let's not lose our time on this" (empty pages, no credible claim of notability, etc.). Extending convenience CSDs on WP:IAR grounds that "this will not be kept anyways" is frowned upon, and rightfully so IMO. TigraanClick here to contact me 13:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing in Cuttlefish

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When I add in a numbered reference @ the end of an article how do I make it consistent with the existing format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jericevic0008 (talkcontribs) 09:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jericevic0008: Please see my answer at Talk:Cuttlefish#Adhering to the format of the article. --CiaPan (talk) 10:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jericevic0008: Pinging again after section name change. --CiaPan (talk) 10:47, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inputbox

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Is there a way that i create a inputbox which takes some data typed from me and when i press the "GO" button it replaces the text of the whole article (to which the search button is linked) Varun  13:04, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I read this two ways and I think the answer to both is 'no'.
First way I read it... You want a box where you can type text and it will replace the entire contents of the target article with whatever text you put in your box.
Second way... You want to do a Find and Replace on certain text within an article. So, for example, you want to change "Oriental" to "Asian" in a specific article. You put both words in and it goes through the entire article changing just the word "Oriental" to "Asian" wherever it finds it.
That said, you can do a Find/Replace in various ways, one of them being with Auto Wiki Browser. Dismas|(talk) 14:13, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Provided you have "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" checked under "Preferences" / "Editing" you can do a search and replace with the Standard editing toolbar (Extreme RH end of the "Advanced" tab settings) - Arjayay (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Did not know that! Thanks! Dismas|(talk) 14:23, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Upon review, I have that checked and still do not see a Find/Replace. Dismas|(talk) 14:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
'Advanced' is just right of the book (reference) icon. click that. now far right end of that tool bar. I haven't used that in a long time so things may have changed, but when I did use it, it wasn't safe to click the 'replace all' button (and you can't just ctrl-z to undo).
Trappist the monk (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Advanced option is next to the curly braces "Insert Citation" button for me. And the last item I have in my Advanced options is Redirect. I don't have a find/replace. Dismas|(talk) 15:10, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see now. It's not the "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" checkbox that Arjayay mentioned. It's the one labeled "Enable wizards for links, formatting, tables, citations, and the search and replace function" which is the next checkbox down. Dismas|(talk) 15:13, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the wild goose-chase, I just turned off "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" and it disappeared, as it is not on the basic editing toolbar. - Arjayay (talk) 15:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thnx a lot dismas and all Varun  07:36, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Login without password

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I created an accout on Wikipedia to enter for the Wiki Loves Nature(WLA) photography contest. I forgot my password. When creating an account, giving the email is optional so I have not given a email, but now I cannot reset my password. In case I WIN WLA, what can I do with it without my account from which I sent the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.227.148.12 (talk) 19:31, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What is your account name? Ruslik_Zero 20:02, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

awesomepeople113 Ruslik0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.64.100.175 (talk) 17:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC) Ruslik0... Waiting for your response — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.64.100.175 (talk) 13:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request

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The institutional name for Hillsdale Free Will Baptist College has been changed to Randall University, effective July 1, 2016. Please, change the article title to: Randall University (formerly Hillsdale Free Will Baptist College). Thanks, Timothy Eaton President of Randall University — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teaton53 (talkcontribs) 19:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I renamed the article. Ruslik_Zero 20:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Question RE Mike Turkovich

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Header added —  crh 23  (Talk) 21:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I noticed in your terms and conditions that tabloid journalism is against your policy. The article published on Michael Turkovich, contains criminal activity which is against Wiki Standards. I removed the personal life section.

"Personal life[edit] The former Notre Dame football player authorities busted last week for allegedly getting 22 pounds of pot in the mail has entered a not guilty plea.

Michael Turkovich, 25, of Patton Township, waived his right to a preliminary hearing on Wednesday in Centre County court.

In the charging documents, Anthony Todaro, of the state police’s Central Interdiction Unit wrote that a parcel was intercepted in Pittsburgh on April 24 because it was suspected to contain marijuana, and authorities set up a controlled delivery of the package to the address, 103 E. Beaver Ave. Suite 11, State College.

There, police said Turkovich signed for the package and was arrested.

In custody, Turkovich reportedly told police about the details of the package and how the pot was to be distributed, both of which police didn't elaborate on in the charging documents. Turkovich also allegedly told police he had 25 more pounds of pot at his residence on Oakwood Avenue as well as a gun and a large amount of money in his car.

His attorney, Joe Amendola, couldn't be reached for comment.

Turkovich is free after posting $100,000 bond.

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/05/02/3183675/man-enters-not-guilty-plea-in.html#storylink=cpy"

This article referenced is not accurate and I would like it to be removed as it does not adhere to your policies. Thank you for you help!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Turkovich

73.174.76.111 (talk) 21:07, 8 July 2016 (UTC)Amy73.174.76.111 (talk) 21:07, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The statements do not appear to be adequately sourced and the link provided points to a 404 Page Not Found error. There are very few mentions on a quick google, which also do not appear to be reliable. In the circumstances I have removed the section. Eagleash (talk) 22:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help

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Why Delete Every Page I Make Why Plz Help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hammi Beel (talkcontribs) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hammi Beel. The reasons for the deletions are explained on your talk page User talk:Hammi Beel. Like many people, you have joined Wikipedia and immediately started trying to do one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia: creating new articles.I cannot see the deleted articles, as I am not an administrator; but the comments indicate that you have written promotional articles.
Wikipedia is not for advertising or promotion. It is not interested in what a subject says about themselves, or what their friends, relatives, associates, or employees say about them. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with a subject have published about the subject, and any article in Wikipedia should be based nearly 100% on such independent publihsed sources.
I recommend you study Your first article, and follow its guidance before trying to create any more articles. --ColinFine (talk) 21:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]