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File:Joseph Papin drawing of himself in action.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This file was previously discussed back in 2015 at Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 71#File:Joseph Papin drawing of himself in action.jpg, but the discussion was closed as "no consensus" mainly because of a lack of participation and not because it's non-free use was deemed WP:NFCC-compliant. The situation has not changed since then in that this file still doesn't seem to meet WP:NFCC#4, There may be other WP:NFCCP issues as well, the main one is NFCC#4. The uploader has been notified, but they haven't edited since December 2019; so, it's clear they will be able to help resolve this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Quite clearly does not meet WP:NFCC#4. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 11:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by User:KbsBD[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete -FASTILY 23:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Government works are not in the public domain in Bangladesh. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 11:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dylsss: The images are taken from the Government website and from the webpages where they themselves disclosed the images for public access and use. Among the images, one belong to a deceased person. Moreover under Section 7 of the "Right to Information Act 2009" clearly identifies what are not allowed to be publicized/shared in Bangladesh. These images that you mentioned do not fall under any criteria mentioned in the provision neither break the law.
Rights to information act >> https://dghs.gov.bd/index.php/en/mis-docs/important-documents/item/right-to-information-act-2009?category_id=116
What is not open? – Section 7 Publication or providing certain types of information is not mandatory. None of the authorities will be obliged to give the citizens the following information: 1) Information disclosure of which would be a threat to the security, integrity and sovereignty of Bangladesh; 2 2) Information related to any foreign policy, the disclosure of which would lead to harming existing relationships with any foreign state, or international institution or any regional bloc or organization; 3) Information received in confidence from a foreign government; 4) Information related to commercial or business confidence, copyright or intellectual property right, the disclosure of which would harm the intellectual property rights of any third party; 5) Information the disclosure of which would either benefit or harm an individual or institution, such as : a) any advance information regarding income tax, customs, VAT and law relating to excise, budget or change in the tax rate; b) any advance information regarding changes related to exchange rate and interest rate ; c) any advance information regarding the management and supervision of financial institutions including banks; 6) Information the disclosure of which would obstruct the enforcement of law or incite any offence; 7) Information the disclosure of which would endanger the security of the people or would impede the due judicial process of a pending case; 8) Information the disclosure of which would harm the privacy of the personal life of an individual; 9) Information, the disclosure of which would endanger the life or physical safety of any person; 10) Information given in confidence by a person to help a law enforcement institution; 11) Information related to any matter pending in any court of law and which has been expressly forbidden to be published by any court of law or tribunal or the disclosure of which may constitute contempt of court; 12) Information related to any matter which is under investigation whose disclosure might impede the investigation process; 13) Information, the disclosure of which would affect any criminal investigation process and the arrest and prosecution of the offenders; 14) Information, which according to law is liable to be published only for a specified time period; 15) Information obtained through technical or scientific experiments which is expedient to be kept secret for strategic and commercial reasons; 16) Information related to any purchase processes before it is complete or before any decision is taken regarding the purchase or the processes involved; 17) Information whose release may lead to breach of privileges of National Parliament (Jatiya Sansad); 18) Information regarding any person which is to be kept in confidence by law; 3 19) Advance information regarding question papers of an examination or the marks obtained; 20) Documents including summaries to be placed before the Cabinet or as the case may be, in the meetings of the Council of Advisors and information relating to deliberations and decisions made, provided that the decisions of the Cabinet or the Council of Advisors, the reasons and material basis upon which the decisions were taken shall be made public, Provided as per this section if information is not to be disclosed then the related authority must take prior approval from the Information Commission.
Rather Section 6 of the same act provides that:
"Each authority has to publish and publicise all information in an indexed manner which is easily accessible to the citizens regarding any decision taken, proceeding or activity executed or proposed. In disclosing this information, no authority shall conceal or limit access to any information"
And these are what told to be disclosed:
Each authority must publish a report each year which will contain the following information: 1) The particulars of an authority’s organizational framework, functions and duties and responsibilities of its officers and employees and the description of decision-making processes; 2) List of all laws, acts, ordinances, rules, regulations, notifications, directives, and manuals etc. of authorities and classification of all information available with the authorities. 3) Description of the terms and conditions under which any person can obtain from an authority, license, permit, grant, allocation, consent, approval or the description of any other facilities and description of such terms and conditions, that require the authority to make transactions or enter into agreements with him; 4) Description of all facilities in order to ensure the right to information of the citizens and the name, designation, address, and where applicable fax number and e-mail address of the Responsible Officer.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by KbsBD (talk • contribs) 22:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all - Having right to access information is not the same as being in the public domain. See also c:COM:CRT/Bangladesh. Government works are copyright for 60 years after piublication. -- Whpq (talk) 14:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all, the copyright holder (government of Bangladesh) still retains certain rights under the copyright law of Bangladesh. Wikiacc (¶) 02:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:32 Signal Regiment ARms.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Resolved -FASTILY 23:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Government works are not in the public domain in Canada. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 15:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relicensed to non-free symbol and added a fairuse. Should be good to keep now. Salavat (talk) 00:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Bima Bharti.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Government works are not in the public domain in India. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 15:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not public domain and not freely licensed (see source website's copyright notice). Wikiacc (¶) 02:48, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:I Do Like to Be Beside the Seaside.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request change in license as it was originally published in 1907, so it should be public domain in the United States. Eye snore 17:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Eyesnore: You should notify the uploader of this discussion per the instructions given at WP:FFD, even if it's only done as a courtesy. They might be able to clarify why they uploaded the file as non-free instead of uploading it to Commons as {{PD-US}}. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:30, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: My apologies, as the uploader - do I need to upload it to Commons or does that happen automatically at this stage? Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:DukeEllington TakeTheATrain.ogg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep in Take the "A" Train only. ✗plicit 06:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:DukeEllington TakeTheATrain.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

The audio sample is used currently at Jazz, Take the "A" Train, and Voice of America Jazz Hour. For the same reason I PRODded it, I have wondered whether the sample has met WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFC#CS. One said that it fits well at "Voice of America Jazz Hour" (well, I wonder about the radio show's notability). However, I'm unconvinced that a theme music is needed to understand or identify the context (or critical commentary) of the (defunct) radio show. As I believe, readers may understand already what the radio show would be about by reading the whole article without the sample. Same may be said about the "jazz" genre article. Unsure whether the sample, which has only music and no lyrics, is needed for the song article. George Ho (talk) 21:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in the article about the song and remove from the other two per WP:NFCC#8 as well as item 6 of WP:NFC#UUI. This is really no different from a non-free file that's a book cover, album cover, painting, photo, sculpture, etc. in that such a file's non-free use in a stand-alone article about a book, album, painting, photograph, sculpture could possibly be justified, but the non-free use in other articles (particularly one's broader in scope like genre articles) are much harder to justify and I'm not really seeing how this is justified in Jazz or the Voice of America Jazz Hour. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in the article about the song and in Voice of America Jazz Hour - the latter was famous around the world (but actually not in the US because of the Smith–Mundt Act), and many foreign readers of en.wiki identify the song with the program and vice versa. If removed from Jazz, there are other samples there, too - should they also be removed, then? That would make the article a lot poorer. --Janke | Talk 11:48, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mikl123456.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unencyclopaedic/unused personal photo. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 00:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The uploader hasn't edited since 2007 (at least not with the account they used to upload the file) and there doesn't seem to be any encyclopedic value in moving the file to Commons per c:COM:SCOPE; so, there's no reason to keep a local copy on Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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