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Images in Delancey Place (Philadelphia)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ ^xplicit 05:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These 7 non-free images have been added to the Delancey Place (Philadelphia) article all with the stated purpose of "The street setting including houses (subject of article)". These all fail WP:NFCC#8 as there removal would not affect the reader's understanding. Aside from File:Trading Places (1983) with Rolls Royce entering Delancey Place.jpg, the images are all tight shots with the actual houses that are claimed to be the subject barely visible. In fact for File:Outlaw (2010) TV show on Delancey Place.jpg, it could be the front stoop from the set of Sesame Street for all anybody can tell. In any case, none are the subject of sourced commentary. In aggregate, these also fail WP:NFCC#3a as there is no need for 7 non-free images used for the exact same stated purpose. These also all fail WP:NFCC#1 as they can be replaced by free images. There is no need to use a movie screenshot when the movies essentially use the street as-is for filming; there is nothing distinguishing about the film usage that requires the screenshots to be used. Whpq (talk) 01:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Whpq: I respect your concern, but all 7 of these images were taken on Delancey Place, the subject of the article, and they directly relate to the aspect of popular culture discussed in the article. Likewise, the movie companies chose the street to film, for historical and aesthetic reasons, discussed in the article. Also I could not locate free images of the same scenes. But I agree with you that the last one (from Outlaw show) is a closeup that does not clearly show the street so I will substitute that one for a street scene. Also I will delete the second one that has a closeup of the car. I think by making these two edits it should address your concerns. Thank you. Galaxy1492 (talk) 01:51, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Whpq: I made those edits and am now also expanding the explanations associated with the images so that the purpose and justification is clearer. Galaxy1492 (talk) 02:16, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Whpq: Each image is now better annotated and justified. For purpose: The street setting and how the film director has used this to communicate an atmosphere in the production, and in turn how that relates to the history and aesthetics of this unusual street. For why it is not replaceable with textual coverage: The article discusses the unusual influence of this street on popular culture, especially movies and TV shows. In turn the movie companies have used this street repeatedly for its aesthetics, including architecture and history, and to represent a particular cultural setting. Those topics are also discussed in the article. Galaxy1492 (talk) 02:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that any of the issues identified have been addressed. In terms of contextual significance, the "In popular culture" section is simply a laundry list of movies that have been made. The number of images also continues to fail the criteria for minimal number of items, and I still don't see why free images of the street cannot be used as the movies are using the street as their set as-is. -- Whpq (talk) 13:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Whpq: Thanks for your additional helpful comments! For one of the movies (Best and Brightest) I found another screenshot that shows the street but not the actors and made the replacement. There are no free scenes, but now the images have been edited as best they can to address the issue you raised, and annotated to better justify their presence. Also I added text and reference to the end of the section "in popular culture" that address the other issue you raise about justifying the inclusion of screenshots. Galaxy1492 (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All: For screenshots to be used, there needs to be critical commentary of that particular screenshot for it to pass WP:NFCC. There is no critical commentary for any of these screenshots and they are used to show that the street is used in films that is already covered in text in the "In popular culture" section. The images fail WP:NFCC#1 because there are already free images to show the street and houses in the article and the text is sufficient to describe that the films exists without the screenshots being present. The images fail WP:NFCC#3a because if screenshot were to be justified to show that the street is used in films, there is no reason seven screenshots should be used when one could be. The images fail WP:NFCC#8 because it does nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the street. These two images uploaded and added to the article after this nomination should also be deleted. File:Outlaw (2010) on Delancey Place.jpg and File:The Best and the Brightest (2010) street scene Delancey Place.jpg. Aspects (talk) 17:28, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:JohnServiceYenan.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative of non-free content (book) FASTILY 02:46, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative of non-free content (book) FASTILY 02:46, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Box arts of Dragon Quest V and VI[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete the Nintendo DS covers. — ξ ^xplicit 02:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC) [reply]

I used the Star Ocean (video game) precedent to add the Japanese cover art in the infobox because the video game had an official English release seventeen years after the original release, which was only in Japan. Therefore, I moved the Nintendo DS cover into the section. Which one shall be the main infobox image? If the Japanese one, what about the English one? Does the use meet the NFC criteria? George Ho (talk) 05:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the FFD nomination on the Star Ocean images is not yet concluded, but the consensus agrees on keeping the Japanese image (and probably the English one also). George Ho (talk) 08:19, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why any reason to use any packaging other than the SFC version for the Dragon Quest V infobox. Same thing with Dragon Quest VI. Jonny2x4 (talk) 21:56, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Added Dragon Quest VI box arts for discussion, Jonny2x4. George Ho (talk) 01:31, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Super Famicom images are fine replacements. Delete the Nintendo DS covers. The precedent around WP:VG is to "stop-changing-it" but while you have us here, the Super Famicom covers sufficiently identify the subject in the English language (WP:VGBOX), so no qualms there. I would call this an exception to the norm. We want to use the covers that best identify the subject (that is the purpose of the infobox non-free content rationale: to identify), and we must consider as the English-language Wikipedia the artwork that is best used to identify the subject. There's no telling that the recent DS release would be somehow better known that the original release that was popular for decades. As the original uses the English-language and that the older version certainly popularized the game, I don't think there's a case for necessarily preferring the art of the English-only release. czar 01:22, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:SnatcherPCEbox.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Czar (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This image is the front cover of a Japanese-language rerelease. There is already the image in the main infobox, so the Japanese rerelease image is not necessary. Readers can understand the rerelease without this image. George Ho (talk) 06:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My comment for the Sega CD cover art pretty much applies here as well. If we have to use only one, stick to the PC88 or MSX2 versions. Jonny2x4 (talk) 22:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MegaSnatcher cover.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Czar (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, an English-language cover is the main (infobox) image of a video game page. However, the English release was six years after the original Japan-only release, but the English release itself was very limited and scarce because Sega CD wasn't popular but a niche (or failed add-on). NFC criteria normally discourages more than one unfree image doing the same purpose as the main infobox image. However, does the use meet the criteria? George Ho (talk) 06:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As much as I like Yuji Kaida's artwork on the Sega CD cover (although I'm not particularly fond of the way it was arranged for that version), if we have to stick with one packaging artwork, I would agree it has to be the PC-88 or MSX2 versions, since those were the original. Jonny2x4 (talk) 07:20, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Group pictures now 050.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unused personal photo. Kelly ^hi! 08:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, I don't see any context in which this image would be useful in an article. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 18:50, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Groupshot20be.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned from deleted band article. Kelly ^hi! 08:11, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MNajem.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned personal photo. Kelly ^hi! 08:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:RPI Engineers.svg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: convert to {{PD-logo}}. — ξ ^xplicit 05:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is this kind of lettering really eligible for copyright protection? The SVG appears to be usermade (or user-modified), at least the most recent version anyway. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The lettering is not copyrightable. The SVG code is possibly copyrightable as computer software in which case we need permission from the person who wrote the computer software. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:16, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Homer Sprague (writer, abolitionist, lieutenant colonel, born 1829).jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. — ξ ^xplicit 02:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How likely is that this portrait from the 1880s according to the source wasn't published til 1923 and would thus not fall under {{PD-1923}} or some other term of {{PD-US}}? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:55, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jo-Jo Eumerus, it's from the University of North Dakota Bulletin, if you want to try to track that down. Otherwise, we're lacking the publication info for copyright status. czar 06:07, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Verbir.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This file seems to be taken from http://www.tablesleague.com/teams/teplice1/pavel_verbir/ and the license statement here flat out says "All rights reserved". It's an 8 year old upload so sending it here, although I explicitly advocate deletion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:05, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The same file was deleted on Commons. The low resolution, and drop shadow applied on the image really points to something scraped off the web. --Whpq (talk) 02:27, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Manjari Movie.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like a screenshot of the film rather than a proper own work that the uploader would hold copyright to. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:02, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:US CLASSIFIED COVERSHEETS.GIF[edit]

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Unused animated GIF. Cloudbound (talk) 16:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:US CONFIDENTIAL COVERSHEETS.GIF[edit]

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Unused animated GIF. Cloudbound (talk) 16:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Devices.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative work of non-free content. Too low quality to be useful. Stefan2 (talk) 16:15, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Faraway.jpg[edit]

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Fails WP:NFCC#3a: extra cover. Stefan2 (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused, superceded by vector version. Cloudbound (talk) 16:38, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, Unencyclopedic (Housejunkies) Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Tagging them as {{dfu}} Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These fail WP:NFLISTS and one of them also fails WP:NFCC#9. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep These images are used to illustrate the two protagonists from this video game series, and since a single image featuring both could not be found at the time, two separate images were uploaded. These are the only two characters on the list to get an individual image because of their importance in the series, and they are only used in this article (therefore, NFCC#9 is not an issue here). As for WP:NFLISTS, point 1 says group images are preferred over individual ones, but it does not say individual images are not allowed, and per point 6, "images that are used only to visually identify elements in the article should be used as sparingly as possible. Consider restricting such uses to major characters..." which is what has been done in this case.--十八 21:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You should use a group picture of several of the characters instead of individual images of some of them. Why can't you find a group picture? --Stefan2 (talk) 21:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These two images are from the character select screen of Undefined Fantastic Object, which shows the characters individually. Any official art from any of the games are like this, so a group image within the games does not exist.--十八 22:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Character list has been redirected for lack of sources. Images were moved to Undefined Fantastic Object, but they lack a rationale for existing there (WP:NFCC#8: "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.") czar 14:30, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is an old logo for TECHO, so it's only real use would be on that article as a historical thing, in which case it's probably not necessary to have. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 18:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

UN images do not have an acceptable use policy for either enwp, or on Commons. See [1] and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 August 30#Template:PD-UN FASTILY 23:16, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @Fastily: What about Template:PD-UN-map? — ξ ^xplicit 05:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, I was not aware Commons had that template. I'll transwiki the file to Commons -FASTILY 06:41, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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