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File:Clark Gable and Myrna Loy.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep Magog the Ogre (talk) 09:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source link is dead, and license doesn't make sense. This may be PD because it was published without a copyright notice, or because it wasn't renewed, or possibly the unlikely event the San Diego Air and Space Museum actually owns the copyright and has released it. But it isn't GFDL. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 00:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source link is not dead, merely a typo in listing the url. It is one of the extensive files that the San Diego Air and Space Museum Archives (approximately 17,000 titles) have released to the public under a GNU provision. Many of these have already appeared in Wikipedia. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:42, 19 May 2012 (UTC).[reply]

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File:Glee Nationals episode scene.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free TV episode screenshot, used in episode infobox. While the scene shown is certainly an important moment in the plotline, nothing in the article depends on seeing this illustration to be understood appropriately. Not embedded in analytical commentary, not the object of individual discussion. Fails NFCC#8. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: agree that article can be understood without image; also, image is blurry at the resolution provided, and as such is not very effective as an illustration of the moment. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Idol 7 Ryan and David.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary non-free image of a TV personality hosting a TV show, used in the article about the person. We have sufficient free images of the person, and his role in the show doesn't need this illustration to be adequately understood (he's basically just standing around somewhere on a stage with somebody.) Fails NFCC#8. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:NFCC#1. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:SlitherScreenshot.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The corresponding article was deleted (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slither (software)), and the file is unlikely to see any other use. Sandstein 07:04, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:SlitherLogo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The corresponding article was deleted (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slither (software)), and the file is unlikely to see any other use. Sandstein 07:04, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Parambrata in ''The Bong Connection''.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fails WP:NFCC#1. Image of a living person used in his biography. Can surely be replaced with free image. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 09:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do not delete--Plea$ant 1623 13:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have to give reason, not just opinion. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 06:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:ST-Shran.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fails FUC; used in a list — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2012_May_19#File:Soval.jpg for more discussion about a similar image. — OranL (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Soval.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete - for this and the above image the longstanding consensus that Crisco 1492 mentions is that non-free images in list articles are—in the main—decorative and do not significantly increase reader's understanding of the topic (so failing WP:NFCC#8 - Peripitus (Talk) 11:32, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fails FUC; used in a list of characters. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've listed the other picture as well. I am unable to find a part of WP:FUC where it says that characters lists don't qualify for fair use pictures.

Personally, I don't see why all of these characters don't have pictures on the page. It is difficult for people to match up which character it is if they can't see a picture of them. People will have to go to another source to understand the material better.

I can understand that the content itself may not be very encyclopedic, but why not just delete the whole page then? Television and movies have an important visual component. It makes sense to include at least a portion of that component when trying to document that media.

I also doubt that a single picture used in conjunction with a character description could be construed as copyright infringement, at least in these two cases. — OranL (talk) 19:00, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus has indicated that non-free images in a list such as this are generally a no-no. Articles on individual, notable characters, okay. Lists, generally not. You may want to refer to WP:NFLISTS — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:14, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out that the page you're referring to has a specific case for just this type of non-free image use.

"#5 For media that involves live actors, do not supply an image of the actor in their role if an appropriate free image of the actor exists on their page (as per WP:BLP and above), if there is little difference in appearance between actor and role. However, if there is a significant difference due to age or makeup and costuming, then, when needed, it may be appropriate to include a non-free image to demonstrate the role of the actor in that media."

Besides, I stand by my original point that other sites are using this same material to illustrate the same characters. It seems to be a failing of Wikipedia to stand by the right to freedom of speech provided by its American servers. In this case, we're trying to leave out relevant information simply because of the fact that it has a © next to it, instead of providing an accurate depiction of the subject and defending the right to transmit and receive ideas. — OranL (talk)07:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right below number 5 it says "images that are used only to visually identify elements in the article should be used as sparingly as possible." — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:41, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how a single image used to illustrate only a single instance of the topic in question is considered more than a sparing use. I am not keen on using predetermined rules to counteract intuitive reasoning and logic when it comes to imparting information upon others.

I would restate the argument that without the picture, the section of the list is little more than a blurb that will leave people feeling disappointed in the lack of information provided. I would also restate my argument that the article is incomplete without the image of the character portrayed by the actor, as there is a significant reduction in information when converting audio-visually represented elements, such as TV and movies, into text-based media like Wikipedia.

We have the technology to represent this media on our site (using images), and we have the privileges provided by freedom of information, and I argue that the deletion of images in this instance only serves to hamper the understanding of the individual seeking out such information.

I would also state that it is not my intention to personally assault the opinions or beliefs of others, but rather it is to express my own opinions and beliefs in order to provide alternate ideas, so that we may debate the merits and pitfalls of such ideas in order to form a more perfect repository of information. — OranL (talk) 01:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Pimiento loaf.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphan image with no encyclopedic value -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 13:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kongu veliyan chera queen.JPEG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphan image with no encyclopedic value -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 18:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Rudolph Ganz.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfree image fails WP:NFCC#1 because it is replaceable by Commons file of same name: Commons:File:Rudolph Ganz.jpg -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 18:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, this image's omission does not lessen the understanding of the article it illustrates. Hekerui (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image is replaced by SVG version: File:JesusYeshua.svg -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:18, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sanjay Purohit.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very similar to File:Sanjay Purohit2.jpg, orphaned file, no need to keep. Ronhjones ^(Talk) 23:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Similar files. Though free can't be of any different use. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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