Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 June 12
June 12
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The result of the discussion was: Keep. -FASTILY (TALK) 01:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Stalin Hitler photomontage.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Eugene Pivovarov (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unencyclopedic. The picture is a hoax, combining two different pictures. One of them appears to reverse the original picture. The effect violates neutrality. TFD (talk) 02:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, for the same reasons given in an earlier discussion Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2009_January_20#Stalin_Hitler_photomontage.png. As one of the editors said in that case: "No valid reasons for deletion. Nomination is the case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. The image is encyclopedic, because it illustrates a concept already present in reliable sources (see [1], for example)". Nothing has changed since that discussion. --Martin (talk) 05:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment can the file history be merged into the other Hitler/Stalin photomontage? There doesn't need to be two of them, and the other one is more visually appealing, though it seems to be derived from this one. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 05:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, hoaxes pretend to be real, but this image has a big "This picture is a manipulation. No such scene ever existed" notice. No reason exists to say that this violates NPOV or anything else except German copyright laws, and that doesn't matter for PD-US images. Nyttend (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- How can it "not violate NPOV"? it implicitly presents Stalin and Hitler as if they were allies. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Stalin and Hitler.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AniRaptor2001 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unencyclopedic. The picture is a hoax, combining two different pictures. One of them appears to reverse the original picture. The effect violates neutrality. TFD (talk) 02:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, for the same reasons given in a similar discussion Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2009_January_20#Stalin_Hitler_photomontage.png. As one of the editors said in that case: "No valid reasons for deletion. Nomination is the case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. The image is encyclopedic, because it illustrates a concept already present in reliable sources (see [2], for example)". The same applies to this image. --Martin (talk) 05:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the summary clearly states it is a photomontage, so where's the hoax? -- perhaps it should be renamed File:photomontage of Stalin and Hitler.png ? I also don't see where neutrality is violated; especially since Ribbentroff and Molotov negotiated a non-agression pact that lead to the division of Poland and the absorbtion of the Baltic states by the USSR. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 05:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The average viewer would assume either that it was a picture of the two standing together or that it had been created as an official montage, similar to Communist montages of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, etc. Viewers do not normally search through the file history. Hoax or not it presents a POV. TFD (talk) 15:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Allies are frequently photomanipulated/collaged together, it's common practice. Hitler and Stalin were allies at one point. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The average viewer would assume either that it was a picture of the two standing together or that it had been created as an official montage, similar to Communist montages of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, etc. Viewers do not normally search through the file history. Hoax or not it presents a POV. TFD (talk) 15:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Tammsalu The Last Angry Man (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]- Note The Last Angry Man has been indef blocked as a sockpuppet of mark nutley [3]. --TFD (talk) 20:59, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The photo may be nice for an op-ed, but Wikipedia is supposed to NPOV. The fact that a publisher has used a similar montage on a book cover is irrelevant, as his primary objective is to sell his book, and a provocative cover helps a lot. Anonimu (talk) 15:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A publisher did not in fact use a similar montage. The editor says it was "inspired by" the cover of Richard Overy's The dictators, but Overy's book cover shows the two subjects in separate photos.[4] TFD (talk) 23:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The publisher did in fact use a similar image, see this. --Martin (talk) 23:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A publisher did not in fact use a similar montage. The editor says it was "inspired by" the cover of Richard Overy's The dictators, but Overy's book cover shows the two subjects in separate photos.[4] TFD (talk) 23:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- God almighty. Photo-montages for the sake of it are probably fine on Commons if the licenses are okay, but there's no valid use case for keeping this on Wikipedia. {{double image}} achieves the effect without the deceit of a photoshopped image. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 18:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, hoaxes pretend to be real, but this image has a big "This picture is a manipulation. No such scene ever existed" notice. Viewers don't need to search through the file history to see something at the top of the description — that's the whole reason we have a description page for images. It appears to be used helpfully in Totalitarianism, so that's a sufficient reason to keep any free image. No reason exists to say that this violates NPOV or anything else except German copyright laws, and that doesn't matter for PD-US images. Nyttend (talk) 00:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As above, the entire point of the picture appears to be to present Stalin and Hitler as allies. This is misinformed at best and deceptive at worst, regardless of whether there's a disclaimer on the file page or not. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:09, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Doubtful that many viewers would click on the picture to go to the picture file then click on edit to find the disclaimer. TFD (talk) 03:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as a likely copyright violation. It attempts to duplicate the cover of http://www.amazon.com/s?search-alias=stripbooks&field-isbn=9780713993097 more closely than File:Stalin Hitler photomontage.png.--agr (talk) 01:49, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The idea of Hitler and Stalin standing together does not sound very copyrightable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alquery (talk • contribs) 20:07, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - who in the world thinks this thing belongs in encyclopedia space? I don't really care about the other image (used only in JimboSpace), but in no way is this image appropriate for an encyclopedia. --B (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 14:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:2007 Kentucky Gubernatorial Election.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by John Hass (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A BadJPEG map which should be obsoleted by File:2007 Kentucky Gubernatorial Election Counties.png §§§§ Alquerytalk 03:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, no good reason to keep this bad jpeg. Nyttend (talk) 00:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F1 by Nyttend (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:2007 Kentucky Gubernatorial Election Counties.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by John Haas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Duplicate of above §§§§ Alquerytalk 04:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Deleted under F1. Nyttend (talk) 23:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:DSC010474.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Eugen Simion 14 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic due to lack of description and more importantly, someone standing in front of the subject (a water fountain) similing at the camera, making it look like a holiday snap. In fact, it probably is. Acather96 (talk) 07:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:DSC010861.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Yogibear1 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 07:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Rics photos 012.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Special place (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 07:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Front photo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Special place (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic. Suggest salting of the name as being too generic as well. Acather96 (talk) 07:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Rics photos 005.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Special place (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 07:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Rics photos 008.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Special place (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 07:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Maggywhitehouse.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lafem (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Redundant as a low quality version of File:WhitehouseM.jpg. Note that the other file has been verified through OTRS, while this has dubious copyright status. Orphaned. Acather96 (talk) 07:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, no good reason to keep a poorer-quality version. Both images are obviously the same original image: permission applies to the intellectual property in the image, so this should be covered by the OTRS; however, it's not helpful to keep it. Nyttend (talk) 00:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Lool Cuab.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Victorgrigas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 08:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per nomination. Can see no reasonable encyclopedic use, and is not being used by user. Calmer Waters 05:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Lool Cuab Smoking 1.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Victorgrigas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 08:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per nomination, same rational as above Calmer Waters 05:24, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Lool Cuab Smoking 2.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Victorgrigas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 08:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nomination, non-used in user space, no seen encyclopedic value Calmer Waters 05:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Lool Cuab Smoking 3.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Victorgrigas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 08:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per nomination, same rational as with the two above images Calmer Waters 05:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Beerhawks.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Slocking (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 08:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Jackie Robinson SMD.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JaMikePA (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused text replacement. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Jackie Robinson YRK.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JaMikePA (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused text replacement. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Jackie Robinson NWK.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JaMikePA (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused text replacement. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Formula One organisation.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mark83 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Outdated, the companies structure has changed rendering this image incorrect. Also, a chart showing a companies ownership is not really notable for Wikipedia. QueenCake (talk) 12:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- In any case, a table would be far more accessible. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:43, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:TheCharms YestdaysBoys.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rustybloods (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unencyclopedic, Low quality, other media from this band is being requested for deletion here in commons [5] for no notability Santosga (talk) 14:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Unencyclopedic, Low quality, other media from this band is being requested for deletion here in commons [6] for no notability Santosga (talk) 14:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Unencyclopedic, Low quality, other media from this band is being requested for deletion here in commons [7] for no notability Santosga (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Zmarffy_twitter.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zmarffy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphan, No License Zeke Marffy (talk) 15:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Firefox logo is actually copyrighted (even though it is free software), so this is actually a non-free image. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 15:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Gabrielle_Giffords_recovery_photo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GageSkidmore (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The photographer, PK Weis, has clearly marked the original with a copyright notice and described the provenance of the image. [8] While they have appeared on Giffords' Facebook page,[9] they have not yet appeared on her official congressional website. See this Wikimedia discussion. Jokestress (talk) 18:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and Commons discussion, which appears to be heading to a delete. – ukexpat (talk) 18:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, replaceable. Nyttend (talk) 00:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Reasonably replaceable image. Calmer Waters 04:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Drossi.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bluefish35 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I uploaded a Creative Commons image to Commons, and that can be used for the same purpose as this nonfree image ( File:Joe Mantegna small.jpg ) - Warddr (talk) 22:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, this deserved to be tagged as replaceable as soon as it was uploaded; your new upload is proof of its replaceability. Nyttend (talk) 00:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:ThTP-2D.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lulubou (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Bad quality, superceded by e. g. Thiamintriphosphat.svg, unused. Yikrazuul (talk) 23:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to commons and then delete under F8. Calmer Waters 05:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Formula AThDP.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lulubou (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Bad quality, superceded by e. g. Adenosine Thiamine pyrophosphate.svg, unused Yikrazuul (talk) 23:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to commons and then delete under F8. Calmer Waters 05:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Why? What possible reason could there be to keep a JPEG of something we have an SVG for? Diagrams should never be done in JPEGs anyway. If this image is ever used (other than as an example of what not to do) someone is doing something wrong. --B (talk) 00:56, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:2003 Kentucky Gubernatorial Election Counties.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by John Hass (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A BadJPEG map replaced by File:2003 Kentucky Gubernatorial Election Counties.png. §§§§ Alquerytalk 23:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Reform movement logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dermo345 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned fair use image Lozleader (talk) 23:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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