Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/Tony Award for Best Featured Actress in a Play/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was kept by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC) [1].[reply]
Tony Award for Best Featured Actress in a Play (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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I am nominating this for featured list removal because... largely the same reasons as Tony Award for Best Featured Actor in a Play but will quote here in relevant part: "The lead is nothing like it was when the list was promoted. The table is completely unreferenced now as well. No references to the winners, no references to support the characters the winners or nominees play, no references to support the nominees. No scope row tags. Cannot sort the main table. There's a trivia section which goes directly counter to MOS:TRIVIA. If you're colorblind you're out of luck trying to tell which is the winner from the tables. Changes came after a bogus "consensus" emerged on the talk page of Tony Award for Best Featured Actress in a Play three years ago."
Therapyisgood (talk) 09:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tentative delist with a bold suggestionalthough I got the feeling from re-visiting that discussion that delisting these articles was exactly what HesioneHushabye wanted (to whit: I'm not looking for my version to be a featured list candidate (nor do I think the current version should be). I would advocate restoring this version and adding the last four years of winners. I'll do it myself if we think that's a better approach to these lists than simply living with such complete crap. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 09:20, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]- I would support that as well --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you Guerillero. That approach could also be applied at the other FLRC, i.e. here if we get some agreement to do so? The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 19:59, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I would support that in both cases. The current versions are appalling -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:32, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Chris. I'd be interested in hearing what PresN and Giants2008 have to say about this? The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That solution sounds fine to me. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:13, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Chris. I'd be interested in hearing what PresN and Giants2008 have to say about this? The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I would support that in both cases. The current versions are appalling -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:32, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you Guerillero. That approach could also be applied at the other FLRC, i.e. here if we get some agreement to do so? The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 19:59, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I would support that as well --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Therapyisgood, Giants2008, Guerillero, ChrisTheDude, and The Rambling Man, I've had a go at correcting the table per your discussion. I've reintroduced the table used when the list was promoted and I've restored the lead too. The table has been updated to reflect the recent winners and referenced. Let me know if anything else needs to be amended. :) NapHit (talk) 14:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @NapHit: Things like this are broken {{ref|5|[V]}}. Any idea why? --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I forgot to add the notes back in, Guerillero. Should be sorted now. I have a question regarding the book sources, should they be moved into a bibliography and the pages used as refs, instead of the whole book being used a reference? NapHit (talk) 14:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- NapHit absolutely marvellous, thanks very much indeed. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 14:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I forgot to add the notes back in, Guerillero. Should be sorted now. I have a question regarding the book sources, should they be moved into a bibliography and the pages used as refs, instead of the whole book being used a reference? NapHit (talk) 14:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep thanks to some sterling work, we've got our (featured) list back! The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 14:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - 2007, 1974, 1950 and 1947 don't have a ref. Is this covered somewhere else? Aza24 (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The award wasn't held in 1948 or 1950. I've added refs to cover 1974 and 2007. Thanks for the comment Aza24. NapHit (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep after the addition of missing refs by NapHit (thank you for doing so) - Aza24 (talk) 19:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The award wasn't held in 1948 or 1950. I've added refs to cover 1974 and 2007. Thanks for the comment Aza24. NapHit (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 16:39, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I would say generally that the Internet Broadway Database should be added as a reference above the "references" section because the reference in the table only references who played the winning character. I also would say the Tony Awards archived site should be added as a general reference too. The notes use Template:Ref which is depreciated and should be Template:Refn or Template:Efn. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Therapyisgood I've added two refs to the top of the table. From what I gather, the practice of adding general refs is no considered good practice. The notes are using the efn template. Thanks for the comments. NapHit (talk) 12:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- NapHit There are a few dead links, namely refs 1, 2, 28, 47, 71 (is giving an error of sorts), 52 could use the new URL, and the URL in the infobox is dead as well. Thank you for the work you've done so far. Therapyisgood (talk) 15:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Therapyisgood archived links added. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- NapHit There are a few dead links, namely refs 1, 2, 28, 47, 71 (is giving an error of sorts), 52 could use the new URL, and the URL in the infobox is dead as well. Thank you for the work you've done so far. Therapyisgood (talk) 15:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Looks good to me. Therapyisgood (talk) 16:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been kept, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:35, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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