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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted 06:09, 13 April 2008.

List of state highways in Washington[edit]

It has recently gone through a major renovation and is a very clean list. — ComputerGuy890100Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 21:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose
    1. The lead needs to be expanded.
    2. The Notes located in the lead should be converted to footnotes.
    3. The "Notes" column should be removed, since there are only three notes, which could be converted to footnotes, as well. Currently, this column can't be sorted anyway.
    4. Combine the miles and kilometers into one column titled "Length". Write the km in parenthesis.
    5. Round miles and km to the nearest whole number.
    6. Why are some of the rows colored gray? Explanation is needed.
    7. Overall, too many redlinks throughout the list.

--Crzycheetah 21:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To answer 6 and 7, the gray rows are deleted routes and the red links are for the articles that 'will be created by WP:WASH or Wikipedia:WikiProject Washington. — ComputerGuy890100Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 22:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You actually need to resolve these issues in the list while this nomination is still ongoing. --Holderca1 talk 22:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  • I concur with the above comments although I think the length column should be rounded to the nearest tenth, some of them are less than a mile, so the tenths digit is needed
  • What exactly do you mean when you say the highway was deleted?
  • It needs a "description" column to go into a little more detail than just where it begins and ends. In fact merge those two columns into the description column. For example, I-5 goes through Seattle, but the list doesn't tell me that.
  • I am confused as to what the difference is between "formed" and "became a state highway"
  • It appears the "formed" and "deleted" columns are unreferenced.

--Holderca1 talk 22:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • There's a difference between state routes, interstates and U.S. Routes. It might be better if separate articles were created for them, which would also reduce the size of this list considerably. And also a separate list for deleted highways.
  • The lead is too short.
  • That notes column is very odd, with the huge gaps. It also doesn't sort.
  • 1893-1953 and the other date ranges should be separated by an ndash (–), not hyphen, per WP:DASH.
  • What do those other state routes in parentheses represent in the Formed column?
  • There's a lot of red links which should be turned blue by creating articles
  • "SR339 (ferries)" What does this mean?
  • What does deleted mean? The designation was removed, or the road was demolished, or something else?
  • Those that were proposed – were any lengths available, or were they highways that were proposed to have a length of 0?
  • Please check out List of Interstate Highways in Texas for an excellent example of a Featured List regarding highways.

That's all. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 19:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I made the list, and I don't think it's ready. I'm not going to try to improve it to FL status, but I would like to comment on a few of the objections:

  • Ideally there would be more entries in the notes column.
  • Why should lengths be rounded? We have them all to the nearest 0.01 mile through WSDOT.
  • Gray means that the designation is deleted (no longer exists). This should be explained in the notes above the table.
  • Formed is when the designation was created (again this should be explained above); became a state highway is when the roadway itself became a state highway.
  • Formed and eliminated are indeed unreferenced; I don't have a full source for the state laws that designated the routes.
  • Separating the list into several would remove a lot of the functionality with respect to sorting.
  • "If a route was renumbered, the old or new number is given in the "formed" or "eliminated" column."
  • "Deleted" refers to the designation (and this should be explained above).
  • I haven't been able to find the planned lengths of proposed routes.

--NE2 19:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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