Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by Graeme Smith/archive1

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The list was promoted by Crisco 1492 15:29, 29 May 2014 (UTC) [1].

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List of international cricket centuries by Graeme Smith

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• Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by Graeme Smith/archive1

Nominator(s): —Vensatry _(Ping) 04:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

One more centuries list; probably my last in this category. Look forward to your comments and suggestions —Vensatry _(Ping) 04:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

• Comments
  • "His tally of 37 international centuries place him" => "His tally of 37 international centuries places him" (the subject of the verb is "tally" not "centuries"
  • Also in the same sentence, "behind only Jacques Kallis" sounds more natural than "only behind....."
  • "against Australia in during the 2001–02 home series" - lose the "in"
  • "he scored double centuries—277 at Edgbaston and 259 at Lord's)—in consecutive Tests" - don't think that closing bracket should be there......
  • "earned him being named the Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 2004" - doesn't sound at all right, try "led to his being named the Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 2004"
  • "His three centuries in consecutive Tests was instrumental" => "His three centuries in consecutive Tests were instrumental"
  • "He is most successful against England" => "He was most successful against England"
  • "25 of his Test centuries have come while captaining the side, an all-time record" - never start a sentence with numbers written in digits. Maybe try "Of his 27 Test centuries, 25 came while....."
  • "Smith's highest score in ODIs is 141," => "Smith's highest score in ODIs was 141,"
  • "In ODIS, he made centuries" - S in ODIS should be lower case
  • "his highest score of 89 not out was made against in February 2006" - spot the missing word ;-)
  • Key: "(for example, (1/3) denotes the first Test in a three match series)." - no need for brackets round 1/3 when it is not known in brackets in the table
  • Third ODI century - dagger symbol for MOTM appears twice
• Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Fixed all. Even while editing the list, I forgot the fact that he's retired :) —Vensatry _(Ping) 11:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
    • Not quite, you missed the one about not starting a sentence with a number. I did that one for you and now am happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the comments Chris. —Vensatry _(Ping) 15:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
• Format the accessdate field on the references as on over half of them it displays incorrectly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.86.212 (talk • contribs)

• Done and thanks! —Vensatry _(Ping) 17:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

• Comments

• Does it say anywhere that SA never lost when he scored a Test 100 ? That is a remarkable record. The next best batsman with a all-win/draw record has only (iirc) 22 hundreds.
• Would be good to put some stress on his exceptional record in the fourth innings. Tintin 16:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Nice ones! Included both, although I've given more importance to centuries. —Vensatry _(ping) 18:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
    • @Tintin1107: Can you list down the source for the "all-win/draw record"? —Vensatry _(ping) 11:02, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
      • Does http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cricket/23366709 look okay ? If you put the names of Smith Hammond Boycott Greenidge in google, you'll get several hits, but not sure which ones will qualify as 'good' references. Tintin 15:57, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
        • @Tintin1107: Thanks but I'm not sure many of the sources would qualify WP:RS. Hence, I'm removing the "record" claim. —Vensatry _(ping) 06:06, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 23:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Comments - Very minor, but there could be a "the" before West Indies in the second paragraph. Done —Vensatry (ping) 05:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC) Could link the English cricket team in the second pargraph. Done —Vensatry (ping) 05:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC) "and South Africa lost none of matches on any such instance." "and South Africa lost none of the matches" would be cleaner prose. Done —Vensatry (ping) 05:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC) What makes Bleacher Report (ref 8) a reliable source? I've always thought that this was a blog-type site. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:21, 30 April 2014 (UTC) It's a subsidiary of Time Warner and the writer seems to be reputed one. —Vensatry (ping) 05:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC) About.com was once owned by the New York Times, and we didn't give it any extra reliability on that basis. Corporate ownership can be a factor indicating source reliability, but it's not a guarantee. I'd be more convinced if the writer was reputable, but it would be good to know what credentials he had, for my sake and the benefit of others who are tracking this FLC. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:13, 2 May 2014 (UTC) @Giants2008: Removed "Bleacher Report". The sentence is already backed up by a source from Cricinfo. —Vensatry (ping) 06:06, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Comments "led to his being named" not sure about why this isn't "him being named"? And he was just one of the cricketers of the year, not the cricketer of the year. Two of the factoids are "as of 2014" but none of the others (e.g. "His tally of 37 international centuries places him behind only Jacques Kallis among his countrymen"), perhaps add a general note somewhere saying that this is all as of 2014...! Especially if de Villiers keeps playing... Variable use of full stops in the key. Not essential but try to avoid things like piping "OUTsurance Oval" to "Springbok Park" which then redirects to "Chevrolet Park". Potentially very confusing for readers. Check ref titles for en-dash violations, e.g. refs 3 and 4. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC) @The Rambling Man: Fixed all I think —Vensatry (ping) 16:28, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Support another good list. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
• Support Another great list for a great cricketer. My only suggestion would be to change the "as of 2014" to "as of May 2014" because 2014 hasn't ended yet but that's my own personal preference and wouldn't impact my support. Cowlibob (talk) 12:15, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • @Cowlibob: Thanks for the support. I've implemented the suggestion to maintain uniformity. —Vensatry _(ping) 15:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Delegate's comment - This nomination is being closed as successful. The article will be promoted, but there may be a delay in the bot closing this nomination. Please do not remove the FLC template from the talk page; the bot will do that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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