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The list was promoted 21:49, 2 May 2008.

Bloc Party discography[edit]

previous FLC (15:50, 14 April 2008)

Resubmitted as all of the previous concerns have been addressed. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 11:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • Avoid bold links in the lead per WP:LEAD#Bold title.
    • Done. You might want to see Indoplug's argument in the previous FLC though.
  • "Listed are songs that were never released by Bloc Party commercially as singles." vs "This is a listing of official releases by Bloc Party"...
    • Reworded.
  • One reference uses www.bbc.co.uk as its publisher - why not just BBC?
    • I assume you mean blocparty.net, and fixed.

That's about it for now, I'll take a closer look later. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I took care of all my minor concerns myself. One question though; you might want check those music videos again, because mvdbase (from where I presume you got them from) lists even live recordings of songs as videos, not just official music videos. Further, the different versions listed are often minor edits/cuts to a video, hence do not really merit listing. If you can cross-check with the official website or something for the definitive list. Also, BlocParty.net is a fansite and is not reliable; remove all their references. For misc. releases, try to source to allmusic or Amazon.com. indopug (talk) 03:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you get chart info for singles that charted worse than #40 in the UK? everyhit lists only top 40 AFAIK. indopug (talk) 06:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am addressing the misc. section, but I'll have to get back to it tomorrow as it's getting late. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 22:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done now.

Support looks good! Drewcifer (talk) 00:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from Drewcifer

Comments Rateyourmusic and discogs are not reliable sources. Also, "Chart positions" should be "Chart peak positions" or "Peak chart positions". Also what indopug said above. Drewcifer (talk) 06:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed those sources. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 22:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. A few more: numbers under 10 should be written out, numbers over ten should be numerical (fourteen=14). The first four sentences of the second paragraph all have the word EP in them. Try and mix up the prose a little bit. I'm not so hot on the note in the EPs section. Seems unnecessary. The Gaurdian should be italicized in citation #1. Drewcifer (talk) 05:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose:You haven't cited the album peak chart positions properly. The all refer to the Australian charts. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the compilation has charted in other countries. eg France You should mention these. I will be happy to support if you can clear these points. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 15:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks, weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. All concerns addressed. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 17:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

  • As this is the English Wikipedia, I'd like to see the charts for English speaking countries grouped before those for non-English speaking countries, in this order:
    • Home country (UK)
    • All English speaking countries (alphabetised)
    • All non-English speaking countries (alphabetised)
    • World chart (if available)
      • I'm not going to do anything with this, due to consensus as stated by kollision.
  • Did none of the singles chart in Europe, despite the albums doing okay?
    • Wow, did I really miss that? Fixed.
  • The references for the Miscellaneous section should be in the Comments column
    • Done.
  • What's with the extra thick line in the table for the Miscellaneous section between "The Marshalls Are Dead" and "Like Eating Glass"?
    • What line? Renders fine on my PC, anyone else have this problem?
  • Any references for the music video directors?
    • Yep, added.

That's all I got -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 04:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Comment to Matthewedwards I think UK/US should come before all other English-speaking countries in the charts. These are the two most important markets in terms of marketing, sales, promotion, media coverage etc. indopug (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my argument to the contrary at the Sonic Youth FLC. Drewcifer (talk) 07:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The general consensus at WP:CHART (a MoS guideline) is that the home country comes first followed by all other charts in alphabetical order. I think this is the way it should be as it is not only clearer to follow but also more NPOV. - kollision (talk) 18:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do agree with that theory, although I think it should be refined to alphabetise all English language charts before listing foreign language charts (alphabetically again) -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 19:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but wouldn't that be slightly biased toward English speaking countries? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral as I will be unable to see the nomination out to the end. Sorry. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 05:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment mvdbase is unreliable, linking to them is not allowed. Directors' names are normally displayed at tstart and end of the video, so its not controversial/disputable information. Mvdbase sometimes includes minor edits as separate videos, could you check with the official website? Eg: the "Banquet" article says there are two, not three, videos. indopug (talk) 15:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ok, addressed. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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