Gibraltar Open – All articles except lead undeleted due to defective listing (no AFD tags) they can be relisted at editorial discretion. (In fact I'll probably do that myself) – SpartazHumbug! 16:37, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is massively confusing and I am unclear how to request the undeletion of a page. There are too many complicated rules and procedures. I wish the page for Gibraltar Open Darts Tournament be reinstated. I cannot find the reason why it was deleted, it was being updated every year with the winners of that years' event, and I fail to understand the purpose of its deletion. How do I get it put back? Please help, Wikipedia is massively confusing for the layman. Thank you. 178.208.193.45 (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This page was deleted as part of the group nomination of such events at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Open. I have fixed the tags in this request and they should all point to the right places. Stalwart111 00:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC) [reply]
I can see one intelligible reason for deletion in that discussion, which is that there were said to have been no sources or references in the article at all. We should check the sources before allowing re-creation. Every other "reason for deletion" cited in that discussion, wasn't; it was a reason to edit the article and improve it. If the request had been made by a logged-in user I'd suggest userfying the article in the meantime but since it wasn't, I think we should incubate it. In my view it can be restored to the mainspace as soon as reliable sources, properly cited, are available.—S MarshallT/C 08:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - an AfD notice wasn't left on the article, which is enough that'd I'd support a relist given that someone has objected. The deleted article has no references, and I'm not able to find much [1] + [2] + [3]. I temporarily undeleted it so people can see it for the sake of discussion, though. WilyD 11:03, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Did any of the other articles at the AFD have notices? However, I see Wikiproject darts was notified.[4] No one mentioned Wikipedia:Notability (sports) (which doesn't help me much for national (open) championship events such as these). The AFD suggested no references in any of the listed articles and maybe only a list of results being reported. Seeing Template:WDF Tournaments I'm fearing an MMA-style bloodbath. Thincat (talk) 23:53, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Only the Charlotte Open was given notice. WilyD 09:24, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing any sources in the couple of articles I looked into. What's the policy here? Presumably there has to be something before we can accept notability? But if they are not properly listed there is less chance of sources being found. SpartazHumbug! 16:21, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No-one appears to have raised this deletion with the closing admin nor have they been notified of the DRV. I have now done this. I have asked Addshore to consider reversing themselves as the deletions clearly cannot stand and the sooner we get them back at AFD, the sooner we get a valid decision. SpartazHumbug! 16:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have reverted the deletions to the articles that did not have AFD notices on them (ie. the whole list except for the main article). These can now be correctly listed in AFD rather than DRV. ·Add§hore·Talk To Me! 16:23, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Constant Rijkenberg – The user requesting the review has just been indefinitely blocked and just got their talk page turned off, so I think we are done here. – SpartazHumbug! 05:01, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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An editor has stated on my Talk: page that "The rules for poker biographies have been changed, see wikiproject:poker. One EPT win or a win of over $1 million is now sufficient." I was the admin who closed the original AfD. I personally have no view on the matter. Jayjg (talk) 21:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That editor was me. The rules have changed and he now qualifies for an article. Please un-delete. DegenFarang (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the "rules" on poker player BLPs are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Poker. Though the criteria may have been amended (ever so slightly) over the last few years, that section has been on the main page of that WikiProject since this edit in December 2007. Those criteria are supposed to have come from a 2007 in-project discussion about what appropriate notability guidelines for poker player BLPs might be. They don't seem to have changed substantially since. Has there been a more recent change in consensus since then? Or were those guidelines was that essay/past consensus simply not raised at AFD? Stalwart111 00:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the wikiproject does not set the notability guidelines, it's also quite clear from the page that this is the case "This section is an essay on notability. It contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more WikiProjects on how notability may be interpreted within their area of interest.". The person needs to meet WP:BIO the guide for notability on people (or [[WP:GNG|the general notablity guideline) and the relevant standards for a WP:BLP. None of those mention anything about winning certain events or amounts. What they do mention is non-trivial third party coverage in reliable sources. Winning the competition or winning large amounts may stir up interest for such sources towrite about the person, are there any new sources of this type? --62.254.139.60 (talk) 08:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Fetish (band) – This was deleted almost 5 years ago for lack of sourcing. You now have some so there is absolutely no reason why you can't just recreate this. If you need help to do this please leave a note on my talk page and I'll help you do that. – SpartazHumbug! 16:24, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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