Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2012 March 30

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30 March 2012[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Bernard_O'Reilly_(author) (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

A couple of years ago, I researched the story of Bernard O'Reilly's remarkable 1937 rescue of the survivors of a plane crash in Queensland and inserted a large inclusion into the wikipedia listing for Bernard O'Reilly. It was all my own work - not a word was copied from any other source. However, it has all been completely removed from the current listing. Three issues:

1. Can you advise my why my addition was deleted?

2. Can it be restored?

3. If it cannot be restored, can I please have it returned to me - I spent a lot of time researching and drafting that piece of work - if you blokes don't want it, I will use it elsewhere. 121.222.18.196 (talk) 01:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment it looks to me the article you are referring to was Alfonso Bernard O'Reilly which was deleted with the reason "08:43, 14 June 2009 Gnangarra (talk | contribs) deleted page Alfonso Bernard O'Reilly (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A110102b.htm word for word from the the first edit)". Perhaps the bulk of the article was a copyright infringement. I expect your additions were deleted at the same time. The present article was later created from scratch. I expect an admin can recover your addition for you. Thincat (talk) 11:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'd rather not directly restore it because of the copyright concern, but I'd be happy to email you a copy of the article as it stood before it was deleted, hit the email link after visiting my User Page, if that would suffice. As your parts of that article aren't copyrighted elsewhere from what you've said, I'd have no concerns about you reintegrating your work into the current article. --joe deckertalk to me 23:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Volko Audio – Speedy deleted article restored and sent to AfD. Closing early in view of unanimous consensus. –  Sandstein  20:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Volko Audio (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

They made the first Baglama instrument. I have added some references and explanation in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Asaglam/sandbox template. Asaglam (talk) 11:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Restore and send to AfD I declined to speedy delete the article, on the grounds in made an indication of importance, but RHaworth (who has been notified) deleted it anyway on the grounds that the claim of importance was not sourced. First, I know the rule was that once a speedy has been declined by someone other than the original editor, it cannot be replaced for the same reason, and therefore his speedy was improper (tho perhaps he had not noticed my decline in the edit history). Second, the criterion for passing speedy is a claim to importance, not a sourced claim to importance, and this "importance" is less than "notability" . The speedy thus was wrong in any case. If RHaworth is of the opinion that we should adopt the rejected proposal that unsourced articles other than BLPs may be deleted for that reason, he should try an rfc on it. As for actual notability , I'm not judging--that's for AfD as always. DGG ( talk ) 17:21, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore per DGG. Can we just go ahead and remand it to AfD? Jclemens (talk) 06:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore and send to AfD. This was previously tagged and deleted as an A7 back in February. So three users have tagged this as an A7 and two out of three reviewing admins have agreed. That said DGG probably has the right of it. In case of doubt, even a small one it is better to send to AfD, rather than speedy. Eluchil404 (talk) 05:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore and AFD I don't think RHaworth was wrong, it was likely just a mistake. But AfD is the place to decide this now. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • List at AfD. A reasonable contest of most speedies, including A7, should go straight to XfD. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Aziz Shavershian (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

AFD closed as no consensus a few weeks ago, renominated last week. Re-Nominator withdrew nomination six days later after an overwhelming consensus to keep. Request that the AfD be taken to completion. Yeti Hunter (talk) 03:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • I assume this is an attempt to make it so a "keep" closure is endorsed by the community to deter me from seeking another renomination in the future should our standards of notability change. I stand by my withdrawal as I realized that I was wrong in my assumptions at this time. I will also be staying away from AFD as I usually do, as well.—Ryulong (竜龙) 04:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any reading of the AfD will show that the discussion was irrevocably trending to a keep close when the nomination was withdrawn. There is no particular reason to change the label of the outcome, WP:NOTBURO and all, since the closure has the same net effect. We really don't need a DRV here, either, IMO. Jclemens (talk) 06:25, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am happy to withdraw this DRV. I mistakenly believed that a result of "withdrawn" carries less weight than a "keep", and thus might pave the way for further nomination. I'm sorry if I implied bad-faith; it was not my intention. --Yeti Hunter (talk) 06:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Assuming a Keep carries more weight than a withdrawn, I also strongly endorse a closure. It's been weeks, we've torn through arguments on both sides, and a "withdrawn", or even what was previously a "no consensus" - is no closure. Thank you, -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 07:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    So you want to reopen the AFD that I closed myself? Withdrawing is a white flag. I'm not going to attempt to seek consensus for a while.—Ryulong (竜龙) 07:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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