Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 March 23

Carvelli – Deletion endorsed. No problems were identified with the original AfD, nor significant new information or coverage that the AfD did not consider. – Chick Bowen 00:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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<Decision was not notable. He is published in DJ Times November 2009 Issue Pg 41. Charted as number 6 Most Added Track and #38 above Diddy and Lil Wayne> 24.77.214.173 (talk) 23:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Got anything more reliable? Stifle (talk) 08:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

he's also charting with his new song. http://www.starfleetmusic.com/record_pool/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2166:top-50-dance-chart-3162011&catid=26:dance-charts&Itemid=55 #33 and on http://watch.muchmusic.com/artists-a-z/c/carvelli/clip141575 24.77.214.173 (talk) 19:47, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They don't seem too useful. The first gives no idea as to the basis of the chart (that I could find), has horrible mistakes like "DROP BY OUR WEB SIGHT" and states one the donations area "Donations are always appreciated and can even help grease the wheels a little :)" which doesn't do much to inspire confidence in neutrality. The standard of WP:MUSIC is a countries national music chart, that isn't a countries national music chart. The second of those doesn't work for me in so far as the video has been unavailable on the few separate times I visited the link, however after some digging around it appears they accept submission of content [1] so appearing their probably doesn't indicate too much anyway (i.e. I could make my own video and submit it) --82.7.40.7 (talk) 09:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to some of his old ongs on Allmusic.com http://www.allmusic.com/artist/carvelli-p1942664/songs 24.77.214.173 (talk) 16:10, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And that shows very little also, as allmusic say "AMG will add any product submissions we receive to the database as long as they are commercially available in their country of release. The best way to ensure that your title receives full coverage is for you to send us one copy of the product along with any relevant promotional materials, such as press releases and artist photos.", so send it them and they'll put it up, it doesn't indicate notability in any way. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 18:30, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep deleted, I'm failing to see anything meeting our usual standards of reliable sources. Stifle (talk) 08:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

His 2001 song New York Angels received an award for his 2001 tribute song to 9/11. http://geb.uni-giessen.de/geb/volltexte/2010/7552/pdf/Popularmusik_32_S175_208.pdf and here's a write-up on the song and what donations he made from sales of the song. http://gajoob.indieonestop.com/info.php?resourcecategory=Artist&resourcetitle=&resourcetext=&resourcecontactinfo=&checkpassword=&startitem=165 24.77.214.173 (talk) 14:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again can't see how this helps. The first doesn't appear to be an award, the only mention is in a long list of tribute songs and the text notes that this is only a subset and that many of these were amateur efforts. It's not significant coverage, merely a "directory" listing. The second seems to be a submission by the subject to a website specialising in publishing such, so again not independant significant coverage. On the general point, merely contributing or associating with a cause doesn't make someone notable. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 17:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Noteworthy – Restore as a contested PROD. – lifebaka++ 00:41, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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NWearly (talk) 00:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After emailing with an Admin, I was sent here.

The "Noteworthy" page was deleted because it was seen to be notable enough for an article. However, it fits more than one of the requirements for Wikipedia Notability.

The most obvious claim is #10 and #12 on the list of Notability requirements for musicians and ensembles. Noteworthy performed on NBC's The Sing-Off season 1 and while on the show performed 4 songs. They also appeared in the finale episode and were in commercials for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd episode.

(#1) Noteworthy has been mentioned in the following: (No BYU articles included)

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23611178/ http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_d4ac2384-122f-11df-9584-001cc4c03286.html http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/the-sing-off/ http://www.acappellanews.com/archive/2009_11.html http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2009/12/oregon_well-represented_on_the.html http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705348950/BYUs-Noteworthy-to-compete-in-a-cappella-sing-off.html http://www.casa.org/node/6233 http://www.homorazzi.com/article/the-sing-off-nick-lachey-competition-nbc-a-capella-beezlebubs-nota-byu-noteworthy-nicole-sherzinger/ http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/12/15/the-sing-off-ben-folds/ http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351369/BYU-singers-to-compete-in-The-Sing-Off.html http://ldsliving.com/story/60382-noteworthy-byu-musicians-perform-on-nbc/print

Noteworthy was also in a Hong Kong newspaper while the group performed there for Hong Kong's International A Cappella Festival, but I failed to find a copy because of translation issues.

(#9) Noteworthy won the 2007 International Competition of Collegiate A Cappella

Noteworthy also has over 2 million total views on You Tube videos, has two of their three albums on itunes, and for the past three years has been nominated and won International A Cappella awards for arranging, vocal percussion, albums, soloists, and choreography.

Noteworthy fulfills all requirements stated by Wikipedia to deserve an article. There are dozens of other collegiate a cappella groups that have a wikipedia article (SoCal VoCals, Vocal Point, Beelzebubs, On the Rocks (University of Oregon) --This one in particular just looks like as advertisement for their group's CD's--, Boston University Dear Abbeys, Binghamton Crosbys, University of California Men's Octet, and others). Most of these groups have few to no notable references by the wikipedia guidelines, and now Noteworthy has provided several.

Please allow to have the Noteworthy page undeleted.

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