Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 27
November 27
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Birth control law and case law
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Birth control law and case law to Category:Birth control law and Category:Birth control case law
- Nominator's rationale: I think we should split this becayuse typically case law is nested under law SMasonGarrison 01:13, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is only one article about a law in the category, do you really suggest making a separate category for it? I think just a rename to the less clunkier Category:Birth control law would suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- The split would allow the categories to be more cleanly nested. The One child policy category wouldn't fall under birth control case law. Having both would make the parents cleaner, because Category:Reproductive rights case law is currently a parent. SMasonGarrison 02:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Mason's most recent comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Puerto Rico Adjutant Generals
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Puerto Rico Adjutant Generals to Category:Puerto Rico Adjutants General
- Nominator's rationale: Correct plural per Category:Adjutants general of the National Guard of the United States StAnselm (talk) 19:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Adjutants General of Puerto Rico per all other subcategories of Category:Adjutants general of the National Guard of the United States. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)- @StAnselm: Thoughts on The Bushranger's proposal above? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine by me. Good idea, actually. StAnselm (talk) 02:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional extraterrestrial robots
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF as, while they are a character type that appears from time to time, there does not seem to be something defining about the combination of extraterrestrial and robot in particular. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, as the categories are well-populated, and it is worth distinguishing bots of alien origin from home-grown ones. – Fayenatic London 09:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll bite - I will gladly withdraw this if you can show evidence of the defining nature of an extraterrestrial robot. Heck, if it really is notable, Extraterrestrial robots in fiction would seem like a cool article for me to write. I'm just not seeing it right now though, and that is just an assertion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I fail to see how characters types are not defining. Dimadick (talk) 19:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dimadick: Being an alien as a character type is defining. Being a robot or cyborg is also defining. However, this is questioning whether being both at the same time is also defining, which is wholly different and not just "a single character type". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Marvel Comics film characters
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category's description is for "Film characters based on Marvel Comics", although in recent months, it has become populated by an absurd amount of articles for the comic characters themselves, with many of those being for characters only RECENTLY being featured in some mass media. This cat has primarily operated as a holding for the three current subcats which are actually for film adaptations of these characters. This cat is repeatedly readded to articles on the comics versions and I am requesting full deletion as the current subcats handle all relevant media adaptations in film, or, if that does not pass, then I would request this cat to be purged and converted into a formal holding cat. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's comment: I would also like to note that the creator of this cat, User:Dietic, has a history of making similar categories as this one for Marvel adaptation characters that were overcategorized on the comics articles and were subsequently deleted in the past few years, many of which may be viewed via their talk page. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This is redundant and risks over categorization. Jontesta (talk) 14:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Purge all non-film characters. The category as it currently exists is not functional but this could work. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clear consensus for a change; should it be purged or deleted?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)- Purge: Agree that the cat should be limited to articles about the characters from the films specifically, but that that's a perfectly fine scope to maintain and the category retains value so long as that scope is maintained. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- The description is more specific than its title, so just change the description or the title? Tag the users populating it. --MikutoH talk! 03:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Purge and convert to container category. I looked at some of the members and thought it would be weird for Ant-Man not to be in the hierarchy, but then found the article Scott Lang (Marvel Cinematic Universe) which does the job for that character. Many other members have only made cameo or minor appearances in MCU, and should not be categorised here. I would not object to a category for MCU character redirects. – Fayenatic London 21:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also containerize?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Swedish military-related articles
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This seems to be a "catchall" sort of category that aims to collect all articles related to the Swedish military...except the various subcategories of Category:Military of Sweden already cover these articles. This appears to be some sort of "this one user found it useful" thing, which would best be used as a list page in userspace - but not a facing-all-users category. The Bushranger One ping only 01:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Extraterritorial properties of the Holy See
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category, upmerge SMasonGarrison 01:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional melee weapons practitioners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: With the deletion of Category:Melee weapons, this category has no reason to exist either. As for the category's individual members, I suggest a manual merge to Category:Fictional martial artists for whatever qualifies, but otherwise total removal. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fist-load weapons
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Made by a banned user who had a fondness for this "fist-load" term. Unfortunately, it is not a term with an article and fails WP:NEO. It's possible some (but not necessarily all) may be best merged to Category:Blade weapons and Category:Blunt weapons. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Armories (military)
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Armories (military) to Category:Arsenals
- Nominator's rationale: See WP:OVERLAPCAT. They share the same article overall, with only naming differences. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Honorary weapons
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Honorary weapons to Category:Individual weapons
- Nominator's rationale: There are only a few articles in this category that are actually honorary weapons. The others appear totally miscategorized. It is likely going to be better to selectively dual merge the few that apply to Category:Individual weapons and Category:Military awards and decorations than continue with such a totally inaccurate and misleading category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Weapon guidance
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Weapon guidance to Category:Guided weapons
- Nominator's rationale: Seems totally redundant, per WP:OVERLAPCAT. If there is a reason both of these categories should exist separately, let me know, otherwise I don't see why they can't be merged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. "Weapon guidance" is for types of guidance, while "Guided weapons" is for specific weapons that are guided - a rather distinct difference. This category may need some trimming of its contents, but as far as its existiance goes, it is completely cromulent. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- You saw the contents of the category, correct? Because nothing in there appears to be a "type of guidance" besides acoustic homing, fire-and-forget and Missile guidance (but that has its own category). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Boeing military aircraft
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Boeing military aircraft to Category:Boeing aircraft
- Nominator's rationale: Un-needed splitout; all other subcategories of Category:Aircraft by manufacturer do not distinguish between civil and military types (and indeed, many are both, which would lead to unneeded category duplication). All aircraft here are already also in appropriate subcategories of Category:United States military aircraft. The Bushranger One ping only 00:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)