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Category:Jewish Americans by state[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American Jews by state or territory. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent category, as @Omnis Scientia: rightly noted [1] (albeit doing so out of process). This category "only contained one category. removed that category which is present in two more relevant ones". I agree with their reasoning, but would like to show how this process should be done. Mason (talk) 23:40, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is a matter of whether we want Jewish Americans or American Jews. We have categories for each.--User:Namiba 00:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Going by Category:American Christians by state, the parent category should by named Category:American Jews by state while the categories in should either be "Jews from *state name*" or "Jewish American people from *state name*". Personally, I'm in favor of the former as it matches the pattern in the Christians category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OR we could renamed it Category:American Christians by state or territory, move the catergories of insular areas and D.C. there. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:47, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. I have nominated the "people" parent at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_1#Category:People_from_the_United_States_by_state. – Fayenatic London 16:08, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cultural depictions of Roman monarchs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cultural depictions of Roman royalty. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't see how its redundant, being a monarch is pretty defining.★Trekker (talk) 22:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kings and emperors are even more defining, the proposal is to bring these directly under royalty for easier access. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Merge per nom. This helps with navigation, and isn't a statement about the value of the overall category. If the category were to have more people in it, that would be helpful for navigation, but well, with just two it serves to isolate them. Mason (talk) 23:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • merge, redundant category. Drdpw (talk) 12:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cultural depictions of noblemen[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge both as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:EGRS, cultural depictions of nobility of a specific gender is not a notable topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 23:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Charlotte Bobcats NBA G League affiliates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Charlotte Bobcats NBA D League affiliates. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The league was known as the D League when the Charlotte Bobcats were in existence, thus making this name anachronistic. User:Namiba 21:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No opposition to leaving a redirect.--User:Namiba 19:50, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Robert E. Lee High School (Midland, Texas) alumni[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Legacy High School (Midland, Texas) alumni. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:49, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This school was renamed to Legacy High School in October 2020 and the corresponding Wikipedia article was moved accordingly. There is a policy about the alumni categories reflecting the current name of the school (hence the category being "Arizona State University alumni" and not "Tempe Normal School alumni") but I can't find it. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 19:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. VegaDark (talk) 00:42, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename (but Leave Redirect) Support per nom but graduates will be listed by reliable sources under the old name so a redirect would be helpful. -RevelationDirect (talk) 21:31, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Neo (Hungarian band) albums[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category that contains only redirects for a band's albums to a target with zero sourced or meaningful content regarding the topic of the redirect is not useful or beneficial to readers. In this case, its only mention is a listing in the discography section. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is precedent to delete: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 19#Category:Bastard Sons of Johnny Cash albums and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 25#Category:Antonio Nóbrega albums, along with similar results for categories with nothing but redirected song titles pointing to albums: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 21#Category:Saves the Day songs and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 26#Category:Lennon songs. Thanks. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, a category with only redirects is not meaningful except for maintenance purposes, which is clearly not the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No use to navigation. One redirect that redirects to the band article page is not a navigation aid, it's a chocolate teapot.--Richhoncho (talk) 09:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Templates calling Infobox officeholder[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one template populates this category. Unlikely to grow. {{Wraps infobox}} will automatically filter the template into Category:Infobox wrapper templates. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Elinor Lyon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Just trimmed it of anything non-defining and found that nothing should be there! --woodensuperman 15:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ricky Gervais[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 14#Category:Ricky Gervais

Category:Fictional American characters of Asian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

:* Propose renaming Category:Fictional American characters of Asian descent to Category:Fictional Asian-Americans

Nominator's rationale: Given that the header for the category itself says that it's for characters who are Asian-American, I'm not sure why we have a current category name that's a bit of a mouthful and somewhat ambiguous (I initially wasn't sure whether this was intended to be characters that are part of American productions). DonIago (talk) 14:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Undoes consensus at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_11#Fictional_people_by_descent; matches Category:American people of Asian descent. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:51, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per LaundryPizza03, just rephrase or remove the header. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn: My apologies, I didn't realize the current name was the product of a recent CfD. DonIago (talk) 17:40, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:David Walliams[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. More properly handled at Category:Works by David Walliams --woodensuperman 14:12, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia essays identifying problems and/or solutions[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 14#Category:Wikipedia essays identifying problems and/or solutions

Category:David Croft sitcoms[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Television series created by David Croft. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Don't believe we should have this level of genre/creator crossover. Should be partially merged to Category:Television series created by David Croft per the usual category tree for TV creators. --woodensuperman 13:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense - although some of the sitcoms in the list were only directed by Croft rather than created by. Bob talk 20:24, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Macau-born Hong Kong artists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 20#Category:Actors of Hong Kong descent 寒吉 (talk) 10:22, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Accidental deaths[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 14#Accidental deaths

Category:Extraterritorial jurisdiction by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Extraterritorial jurisdiction. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only a single article, Extraterritorial jurisdiction in Irish law, which is also the only article of its kind. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now No conceptual issue with the category but, given the current lack of content, the category doesn't aid navigation right now per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kentucky women sociologists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge all as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge because the intersection is not defining ( same as Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_5#Category:Kentucky_women_aviators ) Mason (talk) 05:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cultural depictions of the Chakri dynasty[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Unopposed for two weeks; WP:REFUND applies. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no need to merge, the subcategory is already part of Category:Cultural depictions of Thai monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Avatar (2009 film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus but leaning towards keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC) (amended 17:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Many of the things in this category are more pertinent to the franchise and should be merged into the main franchise category or one of its other subcategories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:52, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose That doesn't seem to be the case with the current contents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Oppose Those in this category pertain specifically to the first film. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional locations of Disney[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fictional Disney locations. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other contents in Category:Fictional locations by series. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Can probably be speedied per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternate rename to Category:Fictional Disney locations. The proposed target can be read as referring to locations of Disneyworld/Disneyland theme parks or locations within them. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with Z. Disney locations can (and will) be understood as real life Disney locations. Gonnym (talk) 12:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - No reason to exist, most of these articles are not even about their locations, but instead about works named after these locations. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • That would initially call for purging. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I do not think there would be enough for a category after purging. (Oinkers42) (talk) 00:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • I strike my vote. Zxcvbnm may well have a point. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sphenodontia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Rhynchocephalia. Unopposed for two weeks. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Makes more sense to have the category be the most inclusive, as category currently includes non-sphenodontian rhynchocephalians, and the vast majority of rhynchocephalians belong to Sphenodontia, so there would be little point in having two categories. Hemiauchenia (talk) 02:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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