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Category:1980s Russian sailplanes

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. NLeeuw (talk) 22:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian ultralight aircraft

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They are all Russian. NLeeuw (talk) 22:32, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian civil trainer aircraft

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They were all Soviet. NLeeuw (talk) 22:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian agricultural aircraft

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They were all Soviet (except the Sukhoi Su-38, which has had only 1 prototype built in 2001, and has apparently been abandoned since 2002. I wonder whether it even meets WP:GNG). NLeeuw (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian military utility aircraft

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They were all Soviet (except the Kazan Ansat). NLeeuw (talk) 22:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian military tanker aircraft

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:36, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They were all Soviet. NLeeuw (talk) 22:21, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian command and control aircraft

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They were all Soviet. NLeeuw (talk) 22:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian attack aircraft

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC: They were all Soviet. NLeeuw (talk) 22:17, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soviet and Russian patrol aircraft

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7#Category:Soviet and Russian patrol aircraft

Category:Soviet and Russian fighter aircraft

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7#Category:Soviet and Russian fighter aircraft

Category:Russian and Soviet emigrants

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7#Category:Russian and Soviet emigrants

Category:Russian and Soviet military radars

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7#Category:Russian and Soviet military radars

Category:Beauty Pageant

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Beauty pageants, plus member articles here do not make sense. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 12:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Celtic legendary creatures

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7#Category:Celtic legendary creatures

Objects in museum collections

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7#Objects in museum collections

Category:Dirty District albums

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 07:23, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Empty category, all album articles present were recently deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Gangsters from the Dirty District due to lack of notability. Sgubaldo (talk) 06:47, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Celtic nations

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:52, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:POV. The main article is already in Category:Celtic nationalism where it properly belongs. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I'm honestly puzzled even by the nomination. This is about as controversial as Category:Nordic countries. This is essentially a dictionary definition. --Tóraí (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Bringing up the Nordic countries is WP:OTHERSTUFF. The dictionary link WP:FAILs because it does not mention the word "nation(s)" anywhere, and does not list any set of countries remotely similar to the 6 members of this category. E.g. there is no Isle of Man. Meanwhile, lots of other sets of countries/regions are mentioned, e.g. a member of an Indo-European people who in pre-Roman times inhabited Britain, Gaul, Spain, and other parts of W and central Europe. This has almost no overlap with the 6 items in this category. NLeeuw (talk) 20:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Seriously (from the link above), "...Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and some other areas such as Brittany." Really, this isn't controversial. --Tóraí (talk) 21:52, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    You're counting the hits and ignoring the misses. NLeeuw (talk) 05:52, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, clearly satisfies its own categorisation as a cultural region. What would you replace it with on these six place articles to group them together, or are you claiming they have nothing in common? Crowsus (talk) 18:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    What they have in common is WP:ARBITRARY. Whether it is WP:DEFINING or WP:NONDEFINING is a WP:POV. That these 6 items are inextricably linked to each other and belong to each other to the exclusion of all other countries and regions which could be so defined is a particular POV within modern Celtic nationalism. A POV that may, in fact, enjoy consensus within Celtic nationalism. But it is a POV nonetheless. NLeeuw (talk) 20:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, more detail needed from nom; as of now, the category seems logical and as per common usage. SeoR (talk) 18:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The concept may be regarded as at best dubious, but the term is widely used, in the UK at least, and this group is what is meant. The subcat doesn't really belong here though. Johnbod (talk) 01:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "At best dubious" doesn't strike me as a particularly objective and unambiguous way of grouping items. I think the article Celtic nations is enough to explain the concept. A category to apply the concept in practice is just not a very good idea, as you indicate. NLeeuw (talk) 05:54, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't indicate anything of the sort - please don't put indications into my mouth. Johnbod (talk) 15:32, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Absolutely in widespread common usage. And can I remind Nederlandse Leeuw that it's only a few days since this Finding of Fact by Arbcom? While strictly speaking that relates to conduct discussions, you've replied to three people out of the four who've commented until now, as well as having your own say. Seriously, did nothing at Arbcom sink in? Less is more. Really. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:50, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The term is commonly used to group the countries both historically and culturally. Cashew.wheel (talk) 09:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Joseline Hernandez songs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 22:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I created this category back in 2017 for two songs ("Run Me My Money ‎" and "Hate Me Now"), and I have turned both of these articles into redirects as there was not enough evidence of significant coverage in third-party, reliable sources for either songs to have an independent article. This category no longer seems necessary when the subject does not have a song notable enough for an article. Apologies if this does incorrectly. I have never nominated a category for deletion before. Thank you in advance. Aoba47 (talk) 01:01, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This category has been emptied which renders this discussion irrelevant. If you want editors to debate whether or not we should have a category, it's best not to make it an empty category. Liz Read! Talk! 05:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the response. As I have said above, I am not really familiar with the process of deleting a category so apologies if this is the wrong venue or way to approach deleting an empty category. Aoba47 (talk) 17:22, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Non-traditional rodeo performers

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge already performed - I'm just going to speedy close this. The result appears unanimous, including the category creator - who has already implemented selective merging. - jc37 19:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)}}[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and WP:NONDEFINING
This category groups rodeo performers who had a non-traditional career. Stuart Anderson was restaurateur who may have performed in rodeos, Wayde Preston performed in the rodeo before being discovered as an actor, while Tom Threepersons went into the rodeo after retiring from law enforcement. I'm not sure why Kelly Sutherland is here though because there's no bright line between traditional and non-traditional. And I'm not sure doing a different job before or after being in the rodeo is defining anyway. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:FIFA World Cup ceremonies performers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT and WP:NONDEFINING
This is textbook Performers by Performance. Imagine the category clutter if we tracked every individual performance by Shakira, J.Lo, or Ricky Martin. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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